How to ensure security in MRT station if CCTV cameras ...
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Forget it...Originally posted by the Bear:profit?
hmm.. thought it was a "public service" ?
i wonder if they mean anything when they talked about "security" because this sure as heck doesn't look like any "security" happened
Even in London, they are still paid... Only that govt takes all the revenue... -
MPs, ministers are suppose to do " public service " but they take home million dollar pay anywayOriginally posted by the Bear:profit?
hmm.. thought it was a "public service" ?
i wonder if they mean anything when they talked about "security" because this sure as heck doesn't look like any "security" happened
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- ppl who talk about security by sitting in office and looking at presentation and chartsOriginally posted by the Bear:profit?
hmm.. thought it was a "public service" ?
i wonder if they mean anything when they talked about "security" because this sure as heck doesn't look like any "security" happened
- ppl who talk about security are those who study hard in schools and then get a very high rank withou any real world knowledge
- ppl who know about security are working the grounds and will tell you nothing done will ever be enough and really, an ex-SPF sarge told me .. its all a game of bluff .. see who bluff who..
But the biggest bluff is pulled on the people... -
public service been redefined long ago...Originally posted by crazy monkey:MPs, ministers are suppose to do " public service " but they take home million dollar pay anyway
The more appropriate definition is : Public is servicing the Few -
Like the people talking about improving our educational system are the ones who never experienced education in sg... they probably studied in US, Uk or Aus...Originally posted by mistyblue:- ppl who talk about security by sitting in office and looking at presentation and charts
- ppl who talk about security are those who study hard in schools and then get a very high rank withou any real world knowledge
- ppl who know about security are working the grounds and will tell you nothing done will ever be enough and really, an ex-SPF sarge told me .. its all a game of bluff .. see who bluff who..
But the biggest bluff is pulled on the people... -
i was talking to an israeli security fella before...
in israel, they don't bluff.. they are there...
if you look up the history of what the israelis do, it's amazing...
in LAX, in front of El-Al, the israeli airlines, there was this lunatic who appeared and started shooting at random.. the lunatic was shot and taken down in 2.3 seconds because there were israeli agents working incognito amongst the "passengers" milling around..
even the airport security didn't know about them.. the airport security wasn't even ready for anything.. and imagine if that crazy guy was a terrorist instead of a lunatic!
that, is security... -
reading one story and taking it as the total picture... haiz... mi condolence...whahahahhaOriginally posted by the Bear:i was talking to an israeli security fella before...
in israel, they don't bluff.. they are there...
if you look up the history of what the israelis do, it's amazing...
in LAX, in front of El-Al, the israeli airlines, there was this lunatic who appeared and started shooting at random.. the lunatic was shot and taken down in 2.3 seconds because there were israeli agents working incognito amongst the "passengers" milling around..
even the airport security didn't know about them.. the airport security wasn't even ready for anything.. and imagine if that crazy guy was a terrorist instead of a lunatic!
that, is security... -
I agree with you. Sadly, our security agencies and law enforcement agencies are more accustomed to swaggering amongst the peasents and arresting ppl who do not fight back.Originally posted by the Bear:i was talking to an israeli security fella before...
in israel, they don't bluff.. they are there...
if you look up the history of what the israelis do, it's amazing...
in LAX, in front of El-Al, the israeli airlines, there was this lunatic who appeared and started shooting at random.. the lunatic was shot and taken down in 2.3 seconds because there were israeli agents working incognito amongst the "passengers" milling around..
even the airport security didn't know about them.. the airport security wasn't even ready for anything.. and imagine if that crazy guy was a terrorist instead of a lunatic!
that, is security...
It takes 12 riot police to disperse 4 peaceful protestors, what does that say about our esteemed police? -
Always ironic when the MPs tell everyone that we have "world-class" education systemOriginally posted by SilverPal:Like the people talking about improving our educational system are the ones who never experienced education in sg... they probably studied in US, Uk or Aus...
when they send their sons, daughters and whoever to US, UK, Aus for even primary school education.
Well, lots of sg people have no choice nor have deep pockets like these people to send their kids overseas. We paid taxes, which make up their salary to allow these people to send their kids overseas and come back to lord over us once again... Its a never ending cycle... -
Our local agency sends Ops people to Israel for training and they had their first taste of what its like to live in their kind of terror and lifestyle. These people do not take security for granted. Anyways, over here, its all high level, hot air talk by the highly paid people who propably would fly to theyr safe place in Swiss if ever sg was attacked.Originally posted by the Bear:i was talking to an israeli security fella before...
in israel, they don't bluff.. they are there...
if you look up the history of what the israelis do, it's amazing...
in LAX, in front of El-Al, the israeli airlines, there was this lunatic who appeared and started shooting at random.. the lunatic was shot and taken down in 2.3 seconds because there were israeli agents working incognito amongst the "passengers" milling around..
even the airport security didn't know about them.. the airport security wasn't even ready for anything.. and imagine if that crazy guy was a terrorist instead of a lunatic!
that, is security... -
maybe it's destined??Originally posted by mistyblue:- ppl who talk about security by sitting in office and looking at presentation and charts
- ppl who talk about security are those who study hard in schools and then get a very high rank withou any real world knowledge
- ppl who know about security are working the grounds and will tell you nothing done will ever be enough and really, an ex-SPF sarge told me .. its all a game of bluff .. see who bluff who..
But the biggest bluff is pulled on the people... -
Hi, you seem somewhat dissatisfied with how things are going in singapore. Do you intend to migrate?Originally posted by mistyblue:Always ironic when the MPs tell everyone that we have "world-class" education system
when they send their sons, daughters and whoever to US, UK, Aus for even primary school education.
Well, lots of sg people have no choice nor have deep pockets like these people to send their kids overseas. We paid taxes, which make up their salary to allow these people to send their kids overseas and come back to lord over us once again... Its a never ending cycle...
I want to migrate but still no concrete plans yet. -
I do not see retiring a good option... the pace of life and the constant need to work long and longer into old age to pay and pay .. plus the indirect message from the govt is that the older people are in the way of the young who are going to make the govt rich. I already feel unwanted here and treated like a 2nd class citizen. So what's being 2nd class in another country?Originally posted by SilverPal:Hi, you seem somewhat dissatisfied with how things are going in singapore. Do you intend to migrate?
I want to migrate but still no concrete plans yet.
I wish I can just go... but it will take a fair amount of money to do so. I am not a highly paid person -
You sound like you're very old... No offence.Originally posted by mistyblue:I do not see retiring a good option... the pace of life and the constant need to work long and longer into old age to pay and pay .. plus the indirect message from the govt is that the older people are in the way of the young who are going to make the govt rich. I already feel unwanted here and treated like a 2nd class citizen. So what's being 2nd class in another country?
I wish I can just go... but it will take a fair amount of money to do so. I am not a highly paid person
Perhaps you can find a job posting overseas? -
its call start planning early.Originally posted by SilverPal:You sound like you're very old... No offence.
Perhaps you can find a job posting overseas?
wait till 50s .. too late liao -
I haven't finished school yet, already planning!!!Originally posted by mistyblue:its call start planning early.
wait till 50s .. too late liao
Very worried that I can't find job in future. What line or work are you in? -
plan also no use, it's all destined.Originally posted by SilverPal:I haven't finished school yet, already planning!!!
Very worried that I can't find job in future. What line or work are you in? -
The future is not written yet. Its up to us to write it. I'm a christian, thus I would believe in "God provides" and "God helps those who help themselves".Originally posted by Mr Fugue:plan also no use, it's all destined.
I guess the kind of fate i believe in is:
If you refuse to study, refuse to attend lecture, your fate to fail the exam is sealed.
If you work hard, work smart at your job, play your cards right, your fate for a cerain measure of success is confirmed.
That is the kind of fate I subscribe to. Hope I din offend anyone. -
in order of influence: (most to least)
destiny current luck period fengshui karma education
*education is the least affecting factor in a destiny. no wonder so many grads unemployed.
Originally posted by SilverPal:The future is not written yet. Its up to us to write it. I'm a christian, thus I would believe in "God provides" and "God helps those who help themselves".
I guess the kind of fate i believe in is:
If you refuse to study, refuse to attend lecture, your fate to fail the exam is sealed.
If you work hard, work smart at your job, play your cards right, your fate for a cerain measure of success is confirmed.
That is the kind of fate I subscribe to. Hope I din offend anyone. -
I agree that education does not matter in the working world... Its your performance and ability to work that counts.Originally posted by Mr Fugue:in order of influence: (most to least) destiny current luck period fengshui karma education
*education is the least affecting factor in a destiny. no wonder so many grads unemployed.
order of influence: (most to least) EQ politik ability GK financial knowledge IQ -
those factors you listed are rank below with education........
Originally posted by SilverPal:I agree that education does not matter in the working world... Its your performance and ability to work that counts.
order of influence: (most to least) EQ politik ability GK financial knowledge IQ -
(amended) in order of influence to a person's life: (most to least) destiny current luck period fengshui karma EQ politik ability GK financial knowledge IQ education
*education is STILL the least affecting factor in a destiny. no wonder so many grads unemployed. -
that really hit the nail on the head. and the same person who say NUS NTU world class send their chewren overseasOriginally posted by SilverPal:Like the people talking about improving our educational system are the ones who never experienced education in sg... they probably studied in US, Uk or Aus... -
Originally posted by SilverPal:
those words in bold .. I hope you don't mean it in the theological sense. They are unbiblical.
The future is not written yet. Its up to us to write it. I'm a christian, thus I would believe in "God provides" and "God helps those who help themselves".. -
while it is damn inefficient to engage innocent pple 12:4Originally posted by SilverPal:It takes 12 riot police to disperse 4 peaceful protestors, what does that say about our esteemed police? .. you have to admit it is effective in the big picture.
Incidents in the past show that we take no chance. We don't slack when there's something to be done. When kiddy terrorists brandishing butter knives terrorised our national airline, we peppered their face with bullets. When foreigners tried to play hide and seek on our military resort island, we play cheat and send a few hundred pple to find them.
Headless maid found .. crime solved the very next day.
Sars come .. we conquered them.
Who is to say we are ineffective? In LKY's very own words, you dun just anyhow talk .. you have to deliver.