Scutinizing the scriptures
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Originally posted by Ito_^:i think i came across the term anti buddha.. before.
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got anti hindus
go EH
just posted recently -
heaven will be damm boring thenOriginally posted by dranoel maxwell:i once encounter a christian(not very sure about the church) he asked me if the world now is chaotic, i answer "yes". Then he refer me to the bible and said that those who don't believe in jesus will be condenm into hell and those who believe will be liberate into heaven...
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y'all trying to ignite a forum war issit...
stop this "my religion is better than yours" crap. -
The nerve!Originally posted by sinicker:this year, i received a book, some sort of a comic. it was abt an airplane crash where hundreds of Haj pilgrims died. and that they didnt go to Heaven and went to Hell instead. one of the strips even had this Christian
Islam convert who was reprimanded by supposedly, a drawing of Jesus Christ. i just ignored that comic book. forgot what church it was.
I know who draws these comic books. They are from America. -
these are Part of God's plan for us.Originally posted by Engineering:Why is the bible often being scrutinized so closely while the scripture of other religions ( e.g. scripture of Buddhism, Quran, ...e.g...) ain't? -
But its totally illegal to distribute these in SG.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:The nerve!
I know who draws these comic books. They are from America.
I guess the church has balls. -
Buddhism is a set of philosophy. Not really a religion in my opinion.
It preaches about the importance of good morals in one's life. It's more of self-improvement. You can challenge it... but would people support you? Buddhism doesn't ask people to blindly believe... i guess that's why it's more accepted. -
Perhaps Christians have learnt what vacuum cleaner salesmen, mlm salesmen and insurance agents have learnt over the years: if you hard sell your product, peoples' adverse reaction will be very strong...
Many christians try too hard to hard sell their denomiation, to the extent of stabbing other christian denomination in the back. I had an absurd conversation with a CHC person trying to recruit me some time back:
CHC: Accept Christ in your life.
Me: Join your religion?
CHC: Yes. Accept Christ in your life and you will feel His love.
Me: But I know next to nothing about christianity. Who is Jesus?
CHC: You dun need to know how to build a car to drive a car right? Just accept Christ first. You can learn later.
Me: So I can be a christian without knowing anything about God, jesus and christianity?
CHC: Do you need to be a car mechanic to drive a car? No need right? So just join first.
Me: I'm not ready, why the hurry?
CHC: just join first. After you join then you'll realise that you're ready.
Me: I'd rather not. I want to know more about your teachings first before agreeing to anything.
CHC: So you'll accept Christ?
Me: nope. I want to know what does your church preach before joining.
CHC: I told you already, its about accepting Christ Jesus as your saviour. I dun see how much more specific I can be!
Me: I just want to know more first before agreeing.
CHC: You can't know more without accepting Christ first!
Me: I just want to know more first.
CHC:I dun see what's holding you back. Look, we all joined and we're so happy right?
(collective affirmatives)
CHC: See? You can be like us. Just accept Christ.
Me: No. -
wow.... your friend is rather persistent in wanting you joining the church... you make the right choice, cause it's always wise to understand the religion then decide if the religion is suitable for you....
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Christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship between man and God.
However, Buddhism, Islam and others are religion, because no matter whether it is a philosophy or what, it is all about man reaching out to God.
ANd because God knows that Men cannot reach for Him, He sent his son, Jesus Christ to die on the cross to pay for the sin we have done. Everyone is a sinner here. -
Yeah, we have a live example here of those people who are mentioned above.Originally posted by huaqing:Christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship between man and God.
However, Buddhism, Islam and others are religion, because no matter whether it is a philosophy or what, it is all about man reaching out to God.
ANd because God knows that Men cannot reach for Him, He sent his son, Jesus Christ to die on the cross to pay for the sin we have done. Everyone is a sinner here.
Another of those xtian again...
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The fact is that we Christians dun really care whether u accept Jesus Christ or not. WHether u wanna go hell or not it is ur choice.Originally posted by SilverPal:Perhaps Christians have learnt what vacuum cleaner salesmen, mlm salesmen and insurance agents have learnt over the years: if you hard sell your product, peoples' adverse reaction will be very strong...
Many christians try too hard to hard sell their denomiation, to the extent of stabbing other christian denomination in the back. I had an absurd conversation with a CHC person trying to recruit me some time back:
CHC: Accept Christ in your life.
Me: Join your religion?
CHC: Yes. Accept Christ in your life and you will feel His love.
Me: But I know next to nothing about christianity. Who is Jesus?
CHC: You dun need to know how to build a car to drive a car right? Just accept Christ first. You can learn later.
Me: So I can be a christian without knowing anything about God, jesus and christianity?
CHC: Do you need to be a car mechanic to drive a car? No need right? So just join first.
Me: I'm not ready, why the hurry?
CHC: just join first. After you join then you'll realise that you're ready.
Me: I'd rather not. I want to know more about your teachings first before agreeing to anything.
CHC: So you'll accept Christ?
Me: nope. I want to know what does your church preach before joining.
CHC: I told you already, its about accepting Christ Jesus as your saviour. I dun see how much more specific I can be!
Me: I just want to know more first before agreeing.
CHC: You can't know more without accepting Christ first!
Me: I just want to know more first.
CHC:I dun see what's holding you back. Look, we all joined and we're so happy right?
(collective affirmatives)
CHC: See? You can be like us. Just accept Christ.
Me: No.
THe reason why we want to "sell" Jesus to u is because God's love is meant to be spread around, and if we keep it to ourselves, that will be too selfish, because what we keep is eternal life for everyone.
If u are unable to understand How great God's love is, then dun anyhow say people here. -
I cant believe the extent you are going out to prove how right Silverpal is about xtians.
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Originally posted by SilverPal:
sounds similar to mlm recruitment tatics to me............
Perhaps Christians have learnt what vacuum cleaner salesmen, mlm salesmen and insurance agents have learnt over the years: if you hard sell your product, peoples' adverse reaction will be very strong...
Many christians try too hard to hard sell their denomiation, to the extent of stabbing other christian denomination in the back. I had an absurd conversation with a CHC person trying to recruit me some time back:
CHC: Accept Christ in your life.
Me: Join your religion?
CHC: Yes. Accept Christ in your life and you will feel His love.
Me: But I know next to nothing about christianity. Who is Jesus?
CHC: You dun need to know how to build a car to drive a car right? Just accept Christ first. You can learn later.
Me: So I can be a christian without knowing anything about God, jesus and christianity?
CHC: Do you need to be a car mechanic to drive a car? No need right? So just join first.
Me: I'm not ready, why the hurry?
CHC: just join first. After you join then you'll realise that you're ready.
Me: I'd rather not. I want to know more about your teachings first before agreeing to anything.
CHC: So you'll accept Christ?
Me: nope. I want to know what does your church preach before joining.
CHC: I told you already, its about accepting Christ Jesus as your saviour. I dun see how much more specific I can be!
Me: I just want to know more first before agreeing.
CHC: You can't know more without accepting Christ first!
Me: I just want to know more first.
CHC:I dun see what's holding you back. Look, we all joined and we're so happy right?
(collective affirmatives)
CHC: See? You can be like us. Just accept Christ.
Me: No. -
Originally posted by laurence82:I cant believe the extent you are going out to prove how right Silverpal is about xtians.
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You lost me with the second paragraph...Originally posted by huaqing:Christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship between man and God.
However, Buddhism, Islam and others are religion, because no matter whether it is a philosophy or what, it is all about man reaching out to God.
ANd because God knows that Men cannot reach for Him, He sent his son, Jesus Christ to die on the cross to pay for the sin we have done. Everyone is a sinner here. -
Cause they think that evangelising is important.Originally posted by sinicker:why do Christians like to preach? i've been asked to go to churches by friends/classmates and more often than not, my group of friends would outcast them if they do so. i've yet to be preached by Buddhists, Hindus?? -
ok, what does it mean by "men reaching out to God"?Originally posted by SilverPal:You lost me with the second paragraph...
it means that men try to have God's standards, but God knows that men cannot do it without his help. THat is why he reach out to us! -
Isnt all religion all about God reaching to man? If christianity isnt a religion, den why shld jesus come down to preach?Originally posted by huaqing:Christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship between man and God.
However, Buddhism, Islam and others are religion, because no matter whether it is a philosophy or what, it is all about man reaching out to God.
YOu people love to twist your words. -
Tell him you are a rapist who believes in Christ.Originally posted by dranoel maxwell:i once encounter a christian(not very sure about the church) he asked me if the world now is chaotic, i answer "yes". Then he refer me to the bible and said that those who don't believe in jesus will be condenm into hell and those who believe will be liberate into heaven... -
If you don't care, it would suffice to "inform" others of God's love, there is no need to take on "foot-in-door" hard sell tactics.Originally posted by huaqing:The fact is that we Christians dun really care whether u accept Jesus Christ or not. WHether u wanna go hell or not it is ur choice.
THe reason why we want to "sell" Jesus to u is because God's love is meant to be spread around, and if we keep it to ourselves, that will be too selfish, because what we keep is eternal life for everyone.
If u are unable to understand How great God's love is, then dun anyhow say people here.
Another concept that we can study is, why not just demonstrate God's love in our daily dealings, our words and actions? This is a soft sell strategy and deemed more acceptable to those subjected to it.
Mother Teresa didn't go to India to convert Hindus to Catholics. She went to care for the "poorest of the poor". To use the influence, connections and money of the Catholic church to provide soft beds, clean sheets and medical care to those too poor to afford. If a hindu patient dies in her "hospital", she would get her staff to bring the body to a Hindu temple for their religious authority to perform the final rites for the deceased.
Mother Teresa inspired many Catholics and non-christians around the world with her respect for other religions (namely Hinduism) and her willingness to help non Catholics with no ulterior motive of converting them.
There are more examples of religious people who believe in Buddism, Taoism and Islam who also show such love and selflessness too.
Why is it necessary for Christians from certain denomination to hang out at bus stops and MRT station and harass passer-bys with their hard sell tactics? How effective is it? How is the ROI?
Do you think a famous singer can be more successful at converting others if she sang christian songs like Hillsongs and Hosanna Music Ministry? Is there such a character in the christian community? If there is, is he/she doing it? -
It is because, from a purely secular point of view, it ensures the survival of the religion at the very least. Also, having more members, means being more accepted (I'm leaving politics out of this).Originally posted by shade343:Cause they think that evangelising is important.
But what is wrong with evangelising with your ACTIONS? Strange concept, but rather refreshing isn't it? We could live the Gospel and show love and care to those around us, irregardless of their religious preferences. One day, someone will ask you, "How do you keep your cool when everything is going against you?" or "How come you're always so nice to others?"
Then you reply them, "Because I'm christian/muslim/buddist/taoist/etc" or something to that effect. I'm sure they would want to know more.
BTW, shade, I'm not directing this post at you. Its directed at the christians. -
Giving out brochures at bus stops is just a way to evangelize. Of course it will be easier to ask our friends to convert.Originally posted by SilverPal:If you don't care, it would suffice to "inform" others of God's love, there is no need to take on "foot-in-door" hard sell tactics.
Another concept that we can study is, why not just demonstrate God's love in our daily dealings, our words and actions? This is a soft sell strategy and deemed more acceptable to those subjected to it.
Mother Teresa didn't go to India to convert Hindus to Catholics. She went to care for the "poorest of the poor". To use the influence, connections and money of the Catholic church to provide soft beds, clean sheets and medical care to those too poor to afford. If a hindu patient dies in her "hospital", she would get her staff to bring the body to a Hindu temple for their religious authority to perform the final rites for the deceased.
Mother Teresa inspired many Catholics and non-christians around the world with her respect for other religions (namely Hinduism) and her willingness to help non Catholics with no ulterior motive of converting them.
There are more examples of religious people who believe in Buddism, Taoism and Islam who also show such love and selflessness too.
Why is it necessary for Christians from certain denomination to hang out at bus stops and MRT station and harass passer-bys with their hard sell tactics? How effective is it? How is the ROI?
Do you think a famous singer can be more successful at converting others if she sang christian songs like Hillsongs and Hosanna Music Ministry? Is there such a character in the christian community? If there is, is he/she doing it?
What u have said shown that u do not understand the Bible, God'w words. Why not u get a Bible and start reading it, and go to a church, and really understand what it says? because what u are saying seems very funny to me... -
Uh...The other religious texts are "scrutinized"...
The whole difference between Mahayana and Theravada Buddhism came about during the compilation of Buddhist writitngs at councils...