anyone irritated by christians here?
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Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Try converting and harrass me I will call the police.
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check it out. sgFish has been telling me that the past few days.Originally posted by starblue:she does??? believe that earth is in the center of the SS?? o.O
Actually I want to say that all reality is false. We are just a fleeting moment of thought in the Great Chaos, the insane Sultan Azathoth. Everything else is false. If u dun believe in it, after u die your consciousness will be consumed by the Great Chaos and u will be in tormented insanity for eternity. -
Whether they got meaning or not I don't know. I only know these two are completely different things. And using 2 different reference points will result in different calculations. By the way, I doubt Newtonian Physics is being to geocentric theories.Originally posted by sgFish:geocentricity and heliocentricity are concepts of newtonian physics, which is, as i have explained earlier, only an estimation which works under only circumstances.
if you take the more accurate relativisitic physics into account, geocentricity and heliocentricity have no meaning, as they take into account fixed reference points. -
Originally posted by HENG@:check it out. sgFish has been telling me that the past few days.
Actually I want to say that all reality is false. We are just a fleeting moment of thought in the Great Chaos, the insane Sultan Azathoth. Everything else is false. If u dun believe in it, after u die your consciousness will be consumed by the Great Chaos and u will be in tormented insanity for eternity.
man.. i so wanna die early n see all your faces when we stand upon God n he says ' Man.. what judgement ? u are all in hell already' -
Galileo was lucky. But dun think the Catholics are saints ya? Protestants, Catholics, whatever, they all come from the same stock. Equally cruel and not to be trusted. To see what I mean go look for more on the spanish inquisition slaughters, horrific harlem witch hunts, and the murderous crusades.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:I thought this sounds more like Roman Catholic than Christianity. According to history of science, the Roman Catholics says the Earth is the centre, not Sun. People who believed otherwise are killed. Galileo was put on home arrest for suggesting that. -
I am not doing A Levels, so whatever replies that come out from me is from reading books.Originally posted by sgFish:nope. even if you're traveling at half the speed of light, and you measure the speed of a light beam going past you, it would be the same as measuring the speed of light when you're stationary.
don't they teach relativity in A level physics nowadays?
EDIT: To our senses the universe does appear as 3D. However, general relativity states that time is the fourth dimension, and it can be distorted in the presence of a gravitational force of a large mass
Universe may or may not be 3-D. In fact, more dimensions have been suggested. Just that humans can't see more than 3-D. Gravity has been suggested as the next dimension, but it just don't make sense with the theories.
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yes they do. It was with that very relativity which newton realised that earth is NOT the center of the solar system.Originally posted by sgFish:nope. even if you're traveling at half the speed of light, and you measure the speed of a light beam going past you, it would be the same as measuring the speed of light when you're stationary.
don't they teach relativity in A level physics nowadays?
EDIT: To our senses the universe does appear as 3D. However, general relativity states that time is the fourth dimension, and it can be distorted in the presence of a gravitational force of a large mass
unfortunately we're talking about absolute gravatic forces here, and not just physical bodies. u can say that from earth it LOOKS like the sun orbits earth, but the absolute fact is earth orbits the sun, period.
Newton'd be turning in his grave if he knew how much u were quoting his name in vain to say that earth is the center of the solar system -
Those people are just not using brain and using religion as their shield for everything they do.Originally posted by HENG@:Galileo was lucky. But dun think the Catholics are saints ya? Protestants, Catholics, whatever, they all come from the same stock. Equally cruel and not to be trusted. To see what I mean go look for more on the spanish inquisition slaughters, horrific harlem witch hunts, and the murderous crusades. -
i dun care that much. i just want them to stop being inconsiderate n selfish. their religion is one of the major fuelers of hate and discrimination in this world. Race, religion, sex, sexuality, u name it, they discriminate it.Originally posted by BadzMaro:
man.. i so wanna die early n see all your faces when we stand upon God n he says ' Man.. what judgement ? u are all in hell already' -
relativity didn't exist back in newton's time. you obviously have a misconception of what relativity means.Originally posted by HENG@:yes they do. It was with that very relativity which newton realised that earth is NOT the center of the solar system.
unfortunately we're talking about absolute gravatic forces here, and not just physical bodies. u can say that from earth it LOOKS like the sun orbits earth, but the absolute fact is earth orbits the sun, period.
Newton'd be turning in his grave if he knew how much u were quoting his name in vain to say that earth is the center of the solar system
he realised earth was not in the centre of the solar system due to gravity. Hence he took the body which had the most gravity (the sun) to be the centre of the solar system (point of reference, which is key in the framework of newtonian physics), as everything orbited around it.
i'm going for a wedding dinner. will be back tonight. see you all
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very apt.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Those people are just not using brain and using religion as their shield for everything they do. -
it all.. comes from Religion. By adopting only 1 religion will ensure Peace and Stability throught the globe. But sadly.. that will never be the case.Originally posted by HENG@:i dun care that much. i just want them to stop being inconsiderate n selfish. their religion is one of the major fuelers of hate and discrimination in this world. Race, religion, sex, sexuality, u name it, they discriminate it. -
Basically, any kind of wars are related to them.Originally posted by HENG@:i dun care that much. i just want them to stop being inconsiderate n selfish. their religion is one of the major fuelers of hate and discrimination in this world. Race, religion, sex, sexuality, u name it, they discriminate it.
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you think that's bad, I've had overzealous evangelical hogs coming to me and saying that I should convert to be Charismatic blah blah.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Doubt it's recently. They have all the while been very fierce in spreading such things. The only difference is whether they have gone overboard. Seriously, I have to call up the police for harrassment because they are harrassing non-stop just to get me to convert. And they are real extreme. Plus, they are the ones who are racists. Says Catholics are bad. Says Muslims are bad. Claim theirs is the best.
Right..I'm a unitarian Methodist and I like how I worship God, without impinging on others and maintaining harmony and doing good.That to me, is what God wants.
Not sectarianism.Those who see us as lukewarm Christians, can damn us all they want.Meekness will win, because we do not have to proclaim and trample over others because they think we are not passionate enough.
God is but a representation of a divine order of things too.It's our individual relationship that counts, and when you place organised religion above simple acts to other fellow humans, then you have perverted Christianity as it was originally practised.
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no he looked at the observations of the planets' movements and realised they didn't fit the model of an earth-centric solar system. So he although the term hasn't been coined during his time, he realised it meant that the sun only SEEMED to orbit earth because its our relative POV. From there he went on to work out thru the same line of theory that the sun is at the center of the solar system.Originally posted by sgFish:relativity didn't exist back in newton's time. you obviously have a misconception of what relativity means.
he realised earth was not in the centre of the solar system due to gravity. Hence he took the body which had the most gravity (the sun) to be the centre of the solar system (point of reference, which is key in the framework of newtonian physics), as everything orbited around it.
i'm going for a wedding dinner. will be back tonight. see you all
I don't need to coin a term to know what a concept means. And a concept can exist even though a term hasn't been coined yet.
Like I said, stop abusing Newton's name for your own misconception. He's turning in his grave so much that they can play Kylie's "I'm spinning around" in Westminister Abbey. -
not true. some religions do not preach discrimination against people who are different. I can name u at least 3 off the top of my head.Originally posted by BadzMaro:it all.. comes from Religion. By adopting only 1 religion will ensure Peace and Stability throught the globe. But sadly.. that will never be the case.
More xtians have started wars in the entire human history than any other religion. And very ironically, these wars have often been against other xtians who have slightly different beliefs about xtianity. And then u look at the line of popes, they have not always been shining examples of religious devotion. Crusades for personal gain more than any other reasons. -
u don't have to apologise for them. They will reap what they sow.Originally posted by LazerLordz:you think that's bad, I've had overzealous evangelical hogs coming to me and saying that I should convert to be Charismatic blah blah.
Right..I'm a unitarian Methodist and I like how I worship God, without impinging on others and maintaining harmony and doing good.That to me, is what God wants.
Not sectarianism.Those who see us as lukewarm Christians, can damn us all they want.Meekness will win, because we do not have to proclaim and trample over others because they think we are not passionate enough.
God is but a representation of a divine order of things too.It's our individual relationship that counts, and when you place organised religion above simple acts to other fellow humans, then you have perverted Christianity as it was originally practised.
I apologise on behalf of those errant fools.
As for being meek, isn't there this Xtian saying: blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth? -
maybe I still believe in being a good chap in a bitter worldOriginally posted by HENG@:u don't have to apologise for them. They will reap what they sow.
As for being meek, isn't there this Xtian saying: blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth? left a lot of my angst behind, realised that the world is never going to change, why let it twist me black and cold-hearted..
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ok to be fair some are not. Genghis Khan wasn't Xtian neither were the people he conquered. Some other ancient wars as well. But ever since the rise of xtianity, im hard pressed to think of any war which wasn't started by them in one way or another.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Basically, any kind of wars are related to them. -
The only religion that does not discriminate against the rest are passive religions like BUdhism. Muslim n Christianity are both aggressive religions. The wars fought down... but if u read both the Bible n the Quran.. the Irony is that they are all descendents from brothers. Split apart by thier own religion resulting in today. Both have been aggressors n played the part of untold misery to the human race. Man will always be weak till the end of time.. only the day when judgement day comes.. will we know the true answer.Originally posted by HENG@:not true. some religions do not preach discrimination against people who are different. I can name u at least 3 off the top of my head.
More xtians have started wars in the entire human history than any other religion. And very ironically, these wars have often been against other xtians who have slightly different beliefs about xtianity. And then u look at the line of popes, they have not always been shining examples of religious devotion. Crusades for personal gain more than any other reasons. -
that's the sad part.Originally posted by BadzMaro:The only religion that does not discriminate against the rest are passive religions like BUdhism. Muslim n Christianity are both aggressive religions. The wars fought down... but if u read both the Bible n the Quran.. the Irony is that they are all descendents from brothers. Split apart by thier own religion resulting in today. Both have been aggressors n played the part of untold misery to the human race. Man will always be weak till the end of time.. only the day when judgement day comes.. will we know the true answer.
too much power play in the hands of the preachers have led to this, since centuries ago.It's shameful to tell a Jew or a Muslim that I'm Christian when they start talking about the rape of Jerusalem in the 12th Century. -
this thread speaks for itself
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I know that. That's why the word "basically".Originally posted by HENG@:ok to be fair some are not. Genghis Khan wasn't Xtian neither were the people he conquered. Some other ancient wars as well. But ever since the rise of xtianity, im hard pressed to think of any war which wasn't started by them in one way or another. -
haiz.
/still holds out for a chance at inter-religious dialogue. maybe that's why the idealist in me is doing cultural studies now..
and I intend to further my PS subfield in conflict and security studies, concentrating on the Middle East.. -
But in the past Buddhism isn't as peaceful as we see. They are quite aggressive. It's only after a few wars that they did learn something. Wonder when will the Christians learn after so many wars they have waged.Originally posted by BadzMaro:The only religion that does not discriminate against the rest are passive religions like BUdhism. Muslim n Christianity are both aggressive religions. The wars fought down... but if u read both the Bible n the Quran.. the Irony is that they are all descendents from brothers. Split apart by thier own religion resulting in today. Both have been aggressors n played the part of untold misery to the human race. Man will always be weak till the end of time.. only the day when judgement day comes.. will we know the true answer.