wat will u do if u find out that..
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LOL "Dun talk about future when the present is still moving. Nobody know how the future is like."??? weren't you talking about the child dying of hunger? weren't you talking about the child so desperate for food that he/she would search the rubbish bin for food? when the present moves, it moves into the future. maybe your views have changed. it's ok if you don't admit it. we are not here to argue.Originally posted by tortoise55:Sinful as abortion as can be, why not? As you said, human are selfish. But do you think they wun be sad and sinful? You are killing your own flesh and blood. But if you are unable to support yourself and you wan to support a kid, dun you think you are over rating yourself? Where do humans evolved from? Humans? I quote the animals is to highlight that all living things in the world are selfish.
Dun talk about future when the present is still moving. Nobody know how the future is like.
AS alexkusu said, "For those that decide to keep the baby, they have unhappy marriages, felt the inconvenience of having a baby and getting married at such an early age." Den in the end what happen, the parents devoiced. Both fight for the child. Who really suffer in the end??
BaBy_JaP_WaWa, since you have already said that you dun wan to have a abortion, den you have already make your decision. I really hope that you will find your happiness in this marriage. Prove to the world that by keeping this child, you are doing the right thing.
The best thing know is to let both of your parents know that you are preg and want to get married. Dun delay in telling them. But make sure you and your bf have a plan on how are you all are going to support your child. Let your parents know that there is a plan.
I rest my case
"Nobody know how the future is like", but BaBy_JaP_WaWa, you can best predict your future by creating it. and you are supposed to. don't be idle or indecisive. take your first step forward
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with sentosa , bikini that kind of life stated in your signature....it's like you are tempting him for premarital sex and after that you should be prepared for the consequences...good luck
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BaBy_JaP_WaWa said that she is not working and dun have money to go for a check up, check previous thead. So since she dun have money, den ask parents lor. But how long can her parents support her?Originally posted by jenn_y:your assumption that the child will not be provided for is poorly supported. you blatantly asserted that the child will not be provided for, on the grounds that BaBy_JaP_WaWa does not have a job? well, she can get one. this situation was caused by the parent and the parent should have the responsibility of bringing up the children properly. also, what makes you think that under poor conditions, the child will die of hunger? there are just too many exaggerations on your part. "born into a world where you can never have a meal to fill your stomach"? "dig in the rubbish bin for food"? i think your pessimistic view of the world made your argument very biased.
also, mind you, we are not a third world country.
Yes in SG children wun die from hunger cos there are lots of govt places that you can ask help for. Your mindset are only focus in SG. We may not be in the 3rd world country, but can you be sure we wun turn into a 3rd world country again? In sg, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer.
For more, I think that you need to move your sights into bigger pictures. What make you think that she can provide enough for her child? We are neither her nor her bf. Only they know what is the correct way. We can only advice her what are the ways she can go into.
Since BaBy_JaP_WaWa said she want the child, den I think we should stop telling her what she can do, but focus on where she can get help.
I might be pessimistic, but that is how I see the world. You have your views, I have my views
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Yes, I am toking about that, but that is only becos i am highlighting what will happened at the other end of the world. Dun just live in the small little world of sg, where you think money just grow on tree or the govt will support you for life. As I said, you have your views, I have mine. The present you just move into is the future a min ago.Originally posted by jenn_y:LOL "Dun talk about future when the present is still moving. Nobody know how the future is like."??? weren't you talking about the child dying of hunger? weren't you talking about the child so desperate for food that he/she would search the rubbish bin for food? when the present moves, it moves into the future. maybe your views have changed. it's ok if you don't admit it. we are not here to argue.
"Nobody know how the future is like", but BaBy_JaP_WaWa, you can best predict your future by creating it. and you are supposed to. don't be idle or indecisive. take your first step forward
Baby_JaP_WaWa, I hope what we said here you will just take it as an advise. The future you are facing is what you have to conquer in the present. I really hope you will break thru it
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OH MY GOD! Would I win a NOBEL PRIZE..??! <Originally posted by BaBy_JaP_WaWa:u are pregnant at the age of 18?
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i don't think you're illuminating her with arguments built on assumptions and contradictions. in capitalism, not just singapore, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. take a look at the US, there are poor people, but the economy is growing, and US is improving socially and politically. you don't turn into a third world country just because there are poor children roaming in the streets. do some research before you make such bold statements. it is impossible to think of singapore as a third world nation, as it is for countries such as the US and canada.Originally posted by tortoise55:BaBy_JaP_WaWa said that she is not working and dun have money to go for a check up, check previous thead. So since she dun have money, den ask parents lor. But how long can her parents support her?
Yes in SG children wun die from hunger cos there are lots of govt places that you can ask help for. Your mindset are only focus in SG. We may not be in the 3rd world country, but can you be sure we wun turn into a 3rd world country again? In sg, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer.
For more, I think that you need to move your sights into bigger pictures. What make you think that she can provide enough for her child? We are neither her nor her bf. Only they know what is the correct way. We can only advice her what are the ways she can go into.
Since BaBy_JaP_WaWa said she want the child, den I think we should stop telling her what she can do, but focus on where she can get help.
I might be pessimistic, but that is how I see the world. You have your views, I have my views
I rest my case here
you see the world as a place of problems, but offer no solution to the problems. you repeatedly stated that neither she nor her parents can support her. what help does that provide besides confusing her and making her even more worried? i suggested she take up a job and earn some money. No matter how miniscul the amount is, it will make a difference towards relieving family expense.
also, you have admitted that she wants the child. then why are you still giving her pessimistic opinions, as if she was to be doomed for keeping the child? conversely, i have been giving her suggestions on how to proceed with her life with her child, such as asking her to take up a job and planning for the future. it makes no sense why you are refuting my arguments just because i have my views while you insist upon yours stubbornly. it's ok to not see the picture now, but i hope you will see it in the near future.
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BBWW.......can support the child and give him/her a normal happy life in the future or not, you cannot see for yourself....you n your "husband-to-be" have to see togather...
I've seen you mentioned that your bf has no problem in keeping the child...i do hope he keep his words..becoz talk is free....if one day, *touchwood*...break off or one fine day he says he doesn't want it.....you'll be the one who's going to suffer and who noes, your child too.....
At this stage, trust n faith are very important...how much trust you have in your bf/husband to be and how much trust you've in your coming to be married life with a child.....alot of things and factors to consider...not just monetary alone you need to think about it....
Keeping the child or aborting the child are both your ways out....Neither of these two choices are wrong or silly or inappropriate....Both choices are of good concerns and thoughts...
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Hmm... Somehow quite true...?Originally posted by BaBy_JaP_WaWa:some ppl think abortion is nothing cos the baby is not a creation of she herself n her love one.. if u realli loved someone n happens to have a unplanned baby u wouldn't wan any harm near the baby.. it's the same as taking care of ur love one.. n not wanting anything to happen to him.. -
do you actually think you're helping our dear friend here by talking about what is happening elsewhere? do you think it matters to her now how the people in the third world nations feel? do you think she even cares about the government or whatever money tree now? maybe you do, because you and the rest of the world hold different views.Originally posted by tortoise55:Yes, I am toking about that, but that is only becos i am highlighting what will happened at the other end of the world. Dun just live in the small little world of sg, where you think money just grow on tree or the govt will support you for life. As I said, you have your views, I have mine. The present you just move into is the future a min ago.
Baby_JaP_WaWa, I hope what we said here you will just take it as an advise. The future you are facing is what you have to conquer in the present. I really hope you will break thru it
All the best to you
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Call Glen Eagles and get it over with. No use keeping it at the age of 18 yrs old, too young to be responsible at such young age
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that's ur own opinion.. i have a fren gave birth to a baby at 17 n they're doing good as a family..Originally posted by Clubbing:Call Glen Eagles and get it over with. No use keeping it at the age of 18 yrs old, too young to be responsible at such young age -
i have a friend...whose mother gave birth to him when she was 15/16..
n his friends are lusting over his mom
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excuse me.. mind ur language.. my guy loves me for who i am not wat i do or wat i wear.. sentosa n bikinis r jus my hobbies.. if he jus wan sex he wouldn't be with me for 3years coming 4 this year.. n i'm not pretty also.. i'm realli very fed up with wat u said..Originally posted by MrFugue:with sentosa , bikini that kind of life stated in your signature....it's like you are tempting him for premarital sex and after that you should be prepared for the consequences...good luck
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y bother abt wat he said.....Originally posted by BaBy_JaP_WaWa:excuse me.. mind ur language.. my guy loves me for who i am not wat i do or wat i wear.. sentosa n bikinis r jus my hobbies.. if he jus wan sex he wouldn't be with me for 3years coming 4 this year.. n i'm not pretty also.. i'm realli very fed up with wat u said.. it's an insult to me.. -
i will show to the world that i can do what only women can do.
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huh?Originally posted by kaobeikaobu:i will show to the world that i can do what only women can do. -
Get ready for my parents to KILL me and the child. =]
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I see that you are just only 17. young person, dunno what the world is about. Just live in your own little world, where there is no worries. 5 years down the road, you will have a diff view of the world. Anything can happen, maybe the whole of sg was wipe out by bird flu?Originally posted by jenn_y:do you actually think you're helping our dear friend here by talking about what is happening elsewhere? do you think it matters to her now how the people in the third world nations feel? do you think she even cares about the government or whatever money tree now? maybe you do, because you and the rest of the world hold different views.
what she cares now most is her unborn baby, sir. you'll never understand.
If I dun understand, I will not give her any advise. Since you think that you are right, its fine with me, cos my advise is not to you anyway.
And I advise you to think it thru, if BBWW have not even completed her studies, what kind of jobs do you want her to find? In SG, O lvl is nth, diploma is nth, even a basic degree now is nth.
BBWW has already made the decision to keep the baby, so lets just wish her all the best. Btw, BBWW, dun just think that being together for 4 years means he will not leave you. He is only 21, and the world outside is full of temption. I have friends who have been together for 5 - 6, 7 - 8 years who break up becos they find that the 1 beside them now is not the 1 that can stay together forever. And that include gals who ask for a break cos they found some1 better. So make sure you tied up ur bf ok?
But I hope that you will have a gd and lasting marriage
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Sorry, I didn't read all the discussion (I read some), but i am curious as to what jenn_y would say to a gal (hypothetically speaking) who got pregnant by a rapist and is considering what to do.
A hypothetical case just for the sake of discussion.
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In Red: you've said it >>"now"..While you're saying about how BBWW's feeling now abt her unborn child, tortoise is talking about the future possibily the child could be facing with.Originally posted by jenn_y:do you actually think you're helping our dear friend here by talking about what is happening elsewhere? do you think it matters to her now how the people in the third world nations feel? do you think she even cares about the government or whatever money tree now? maybe you do, because you and the rest of the world hold different views.
what she cares now most is her unborn baby, sir. you'll never understand.
My views actually aligned with tortoise.
For you're going to say that i'm not able to understand or feel the agony BBWW is having, it's fine with me becoz what most important is the future...I've friends that are married early, have kids when they were young,told me that they really regretted that they did not abort the foetus when they knew that they were pregnant, having their freedom lost, husbands(w/o education/min. education i.e. "O"level) rot at home, play games, watch tv, go out with friends drinking, don't even bring income to the family or look after the child/family, worse still, there're some who beat up their wifes...even though there are a couple or two who come from quite a well-to-do family.
So what if their relationships before having a "shot gun" that time has gone thru 2,3,4 years...u think based on this "confidence level" of 3~4yrs can conclude how will her guy treat her in the future? I've many cases of "Regretted getting married becoz of shot-gunned"....
BBWW's 18years....and her bf's 21 yrs old?
So, he has finished NS...21-2 = 19.
Ok..he's not a Diploma holder?
But he's doing business, right? What kinda business, may i ask?
BBWW, like i've mentioned earlier, you need to sit down with your bf and family to talk and discuss about it. It's not just your decision alone...you'll need to decide the future of the child you're having in you also. -
Worry so much when the outcome is not even 100% sure yet?
There are a lot of reasons that your period doesn't come...so pls dun jump to conclusion and make yourself stress out unnecessarily.
Well, she has already done it, so no point telling her to use condoms or watsoever now...i think the right thing to do now is to just go get a pregnancy test kit...maybe can get your frens to lend you some money to get one since they have been asking u to go and test? -
so what is the result of the pregnancy test kit? i belive all of us here are dying to know.
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I think she should just get the test done first.
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I believe the DIY kit is around 25 bucks from neighbourhood pharmacy....i was told by some of my female friends that if U go to a clinic for a pregnancy test...they also use DIY kit...unless U ask for a lab test to double-confirm.
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"wo hui fu zhe ren de"Originally posted by BaBy_JaP_WaWa:u are pregnant at the age of 18?