Your vote can be traced to you.
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Originally posted by Ponders:Good idea... this will be in line with last time PM Goh's goal to make singapore living to Swiss Standard.
i think SM goh stopped chasign that dream when Swiss Air went bankrupt. haha.
Please, he is still SM now..anyway at least listen to PM Lee speech and directive. Can't be wrong. -
is there a need to worry aobut this at all????????? so what if they know who i voted for. if u willing to do it. u should also dare to be responsible for it . its not as if u doing something that cannot face any1.
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for the next GE, please pay a $2 admin fee when you vote.Originally posted by LazerLordz:if they are serious about having a truly international standard voting system.why not?
I feel they are unconsciously too comfortable with the status quo, that's why there is less emphasis on that. -
if u nv vote for pap they know one... u go community centre request for help(financial assistance all these...) they will reject u, say u nv vote for pap, they cant help u
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makes perfect senseOriginally posted by R3SsH|n:why not this way...scan IC...the staff will check you have not voted yet...then pass u one voting slip and u go into the box and vote...
this eliminates the double voting...
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mus sapport himOriginally posted by king108: PAP maybe you got no chances.. ask the WP candidate Goh Meng Seng to get you as one of his polling officers to supervise counting of vote, you will know better the process.. sg forum member -
Originally posted by bksianzz:if u nv vote for pap they know one... u go community centre request for help(financial assistance all these...) they will reject u, say u nv vote for pap, they cant help u
yr father mp huh hw u noe ,dont talk cock mus be pap sapporter -
Then you will see more void votes being casted.Originally posted by R3SsH|n:yes!
then why don't they remove the serial number thing?
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Originally posted by bksianzz:if u nv vote for pap they know one... u go community centre request for help(financial assistance all these...) they will reject u, say u nv vote for pap, they cant help u Wow , so good. Can tell me which community centre offer such financial assistance and the head to talk to..We would like to recommend the CC for best community services of the year in Singapore. Good thing must share with fellows like us. I volunteer to drive the needy there, free of charge. I support you
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i bet only Hougang and Potong Pasir CC will offer such good services
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not to the extent that have so many anti-forge features la. at least one or two to make it unecessary for serial number.Originally posted by enginboi:do you know how much it cost to print these high quality papers like money? at least money is circulated for a number of years, election votes are conunted and burnt after that. Worth to spent that kinda money?? or you think you pay too little tax??? -
im even more surprised at yr naviety and lack of sense of realityOriginally posted by LinYu:I am suprised by the thread starter naviety.
Yes, your vote "can be traced if they want to". So?
Many of our young man does their NS. If you ask them why, their replies would be to defend our country, our people, our relatives, our friends and our kins. If we do not defend them, who does?
Similarly, if people who are eligible voter do not defend our democracy system by selecting the peoples representitive of our choice, who does?
if you ask our young NSF and those NSMEN, their replies would be
"bo pian forced to do it, our government say must do"
u wanna start a poll to prove it? -
Can't they just ask PM Lee to sign his name on every piece of voting paper to verify autheticity?
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No serial number still got YOUR fingerprint on it! -
I seriously don't see your logic about "defending our democracy" by "selecting the peoples" and that if no one does it, who will??Originally posted by LinYu:I am suprised by the thread starter naviety.
Yes, your vote "can be traced if they want to". So?
Many of our young man does their NS. If you ask them why, their replies would be to defend our country, our people, our relatives, our friends and our kins. If we do not defend them, who does?
Similarly, if people who are eligible voter do not defend our democracy system by selecting the peoples representitive of our choice, who does?
I don't want to argue here. But let me reiterate what i was trying to mean...
If your vote can be traced, it will not give the voter the peace of mind that is the true spirit behind voting.
You vote freely, you vote ppl you want, and not being forced to vote with "unknown" forces.
The incumbent wants us to believe that our votes are safe and that people should vote who they feel its the right person for them.
But the very body who overlooks the election have said for themselves that vote is traceable.
So you see, how does one vote freely when it can be traced? -
then just vote with your conscience. no one owns that.
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just that your conscience might not agree with the ppl who can trace your vote.Originally posted by LazerLordz:then just vote with your conscience. no one owns that. -
every election 25% at least vote against them... that is maybe 1 million people... go and trace lor...
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Well, lets not assume, and lets not just take every word they say as it is.Originally posted by Ponders:Remember government and MM Lee said on TV saying your vote cannot be traced to you and there's no way they can find out what you vote....
apparently the elections department themselves said your vote can be traced to you. The ballot paper has a serial number that will be recorded against your name.
http://www.elections.gov.sg/secrecy.htm
Theoretically, it is possible for anyone with access to the ballot papers to identify who cast a particular vote
Hmm, even though Govt say there are safeguards and stuff like that, all it needs is a law change for the safeguards to go away....
The majority government has no strong enough opposition to vote against any law change.... remember?
They make the rules and the laws, they can change anything they created.
They can slap your face, and say that it isn't a slap, but a touch.
So basically, people are voting them out of fear. -
those who r scared to vote for who they really wanted..r just bunch of chickensOriginally posted by ditzy:If I vote for opposition, my vote will be traced and government will make my life very difficult. Civil servants lagi worse, don't need to tell you what might happen. -
i jus got the slip
family outing on Sat! -
They can check if they want to.. But why would they check yours? Who are you to them? And anyway, they have to burn the slips pretty soon after the results are announced. Therefore, there is no need to worry about your votes.
All this is just an election ploy to make SIngaporeans scared of voting against the PAP. -
scan, OCR, match, store in recordsOriginally posted by Pronewbie:They can check if they want to.. But why would they check yours? Who are you to them? And anyway, they have to burn the slips pretty soon after the results are announced. Therefore, there is no need to worry about your votes.
All this is just an election ploy to make SIngaporeans scared of voting against the PAP.
very fast one
can be done in 2.4882 seconds -
You wanted to talk to any ex polling officers to rest your mind...stop this issue before I get you to be prosecute by the law..Give respect to Minister Wong Kan Seng if you don't respect SM Goh.
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exactly wat i want to say...Originally posted by giggs011:im even more surprised at yr naviety and lack of sense of reality
if you ask our young NSF and those NSMEN, their replies would be
"bo pian forced to do it, our government say must do"