God exists? Or Has man made god rather than god made man

• kecang_puteh

  22 Sep 06, 18:04

  Originally posted by davidche:

  Maybe i shld rephrase my sentance.
  
  Truth is absolute
  
  Truth is the truth whether or not we think it is.
  
  Say an apple is an apple.
  
  Even If a person doesnt believe that an apple is an apple
  
  an apple still remains an apple.
  
  

  In your mind, the truth is that god exists. But that's only in your mind.
• kecang_puteh

  22 Sep 06, 18:05

  Originally posted by davidche:

  here is some logic use.
  
  He said that you cannot say God doesnt exist because you cant prove God doesnt exists
  
  This statement doesnt mean that anything cant be proven not to exist has to exist.(in any case, inclu big foot)
  
  say, a grape is a fruit, but a fruit is not grape.
  
  which means that A=b is not equals to b=A
  
  strange but thats logic for you.

  Bravo, you have just said it yourself. It doesn't mean that god can't be proven not to exist, has to exist. To put it another way, it doesn't mean that god has to exist if he can't be proven not to exist.
• davidche

  22 Sep 06, 18:06

  Originally posted by kecang_puteh:

  Bravo, you have just said it yourself. It doesn't mean that god can't be proven not to exist, has to exist. To put it another way, it doesn't mean that god has to exist if he can't be proven not to exist.

  ya lah!! duh.....
  
  happy that you understand
• kecang_puteh

  22 Sep 06, 18:11

  Originally posted by davidche:

  ya lah!! duh.....
  
  happy that you understand

  I'm also happy for you. Finally, you admit that god may not exist
• Herzog_Zwei

  25 Sep 06, 16:45

  Wait a minute, no one answered my singularity question.
• davidche

  25 Sep 06, 17:15

  Originally posted by kecang_puteh:

  I'm also happy for you. Finally, you admit that god may not exist

  if you had asked me earlier, i wld have told you earlier.
  
  Truth doesnt come about by arguements, but by the wisdom of God.
• davidche

  25 Sep 06, 17:22

  Originally posted by kecang_puteh:

  I'm also happy for you. Finally, you admit that god may not exist

  you need faith to believe in God.
  
  Everything needs faith.
  
  If you think faith is blind and there must be evidences for everything then you r wrong.
  
  entering an elevater.....Pure faith
  
  The same applies for airplane ride.
  
  
• skyfoo

  25 Sep 06, 17:23

  kecang_puteh, forget it. we atheists talk about this alot alot of times. they just dun understand. let them go to heaven and us to hell. let god bless them condemn us.
• davidche

  25 Sep 06, 18:29

  Originally posted by skyfoo:

  kecang_puteh, forget it. we atheists talk about this alot alot of times. they just dun understand. let them go to heaven and us to hell. let god bless them condemn us.

  you are so contridicting.
  
  On one hand you say that you athesists want evidences and reject blind faith
  On the other hand your life is filled with blind faiths.
  
  Technically speaking non of what we see now may be real or what you say as evidencial. Things may be ALL illusions and purely a simulation or a phtographic representation. If thats the case how do you think you can define evidences.
  
  All scientists base evidences and debates
  oustide presuppostions but let us not forget that there is.
  
  In other words, there is absolutely no way to prove God exists. Even if you see 'God' infront of you, one may argue whether its a ghost or a representation. However, remember that this only applies to God which is a absolute being whether the christian God or simply 'God'
• kecang_puteh

  25 Sep 06, 21:34

  Davidche, we are good friends right? We both agree that it doesn't mean god has to exist if he can't be proven not to exist. So, we share the same view on god.
• davidche

  25 Sep 06, 22:11

  Originally posted by kecang_puteh:

  Davidche, we are good friends right? We both agree that it doesn't mean god has to exist if he can't be proven not to exist. So, we share the same view on god.

  actually no, your view on God is that God may exist.
  
  I believe that God exists and isnt limited by evidences or human's mind esp when he is the creator which makes him have the power to limit the human's mind to be limited.
  
• kecang_puteh

  25 Sep 06, 22:14

  So, now you want to contradict yourself?
• skyfoo

  26 Sep 06, 14:51

  Originally posted by davidche:

  you are so contridicting.
  
  On one hand you say that you athesists want evidences and reject blind faith
  On the other hand your life is filled with blind faiths.
  
  Technically speaking non of what we see now may be real or what you say as evidencial. Things may be ALL illusions and purely a simulation or a phtographic representation. If thats the case how do you think you can define evidences.
  
  All scientists base evidences and debates
  oustide presuppostions but let us not forget that there is.
  
  In other words, there is absolutely no way to prove God exists. Even if you see 'God' infront of you, one may argue whether its a ghost or a representation. However, remember that this only applies to God which is a absolute being whether the christian God or simply 'God'

  all ur words are with the assumption that god exist. if god dun exist, all ur words are bullshit to me. u get me?
• davidche

  26 Sep 06, 15:36

  Originally posted by kecang_puteh:

  So, now you want to contradict yourself?

  read carefully
• davidche

  26 Sep 06, 15:38

  Originally posted by skyfoo:

  all ur words are with the assumption that god exist. if god dun exist, all ur words are bullshit to me. u get me?

  young man, you still, have alot to learn ahead of you.
  
  Start by reading ppl posts.
  
  Next is to change your arrogant attitude.
  
  And pls dont depise ppl of other races.
  
• kecang_puteh

  26 Sep 06, 16:00

  Davidche, this is your post
  
  quote:
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  Originally posted by kecang_puteh:
  
  Bravo, you have just said it yourself. It doesn't mean that god can't be proven not to exist, has to exist. To put it another way, it doesn't mean that god has to exist if he can't be proven not to exist.
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  ya lah!! duh.....
  
  happy that you understand
• kecang_puteh

  26 Sep 06, 16:03

  This is also your post
  
  quote:
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  Originally posted by kecang_puteh:
  Davidche, we are good friends right? We both agree that it doesn't mean god has to exist if he can't be proven not to exist. So, we share the same view on god.
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  actually no, your view on God is that God may exist.
  
  I believe that God exists and isnt limited by evidences or human's mind esp when he is the creator which makes him have the power to limit the human's mind to be limited.
• kecang_puteh

  26 Sep 06, 16:03

  So, why did you contradict yourself?
• davidche

  26 Sep 06, 16:05

  Originally posted by kecang_puteh:
  Davidche, this is your post
  
  quote:
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  Originally posted by kecang_puteh:
  
  Bravo, you have just said it yourself. It doesn't mean that god can't be proven not to exist, has to exist. To put it another way, [b]it doesn't mean that god has to exist if he can't be proven not to exist.
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  ya lah!! duh.....
  
  happy that you understand [/b]

  yes, is there anything wrong???
  
  God cant be proven to exist.
  
  I believe that God exists because...(important point here).....God doesnt have to abide by the rule of evidences.
  
  Anyways, God can never be proven to exist. NEVER, if you dont understand why, read by upper post.
• davidche

  26 Sep 06, 16:06

  Originally posted by kecang_puteh:

  So, why did you contradict yourself?

  erm...
  
  God cannot be proven to exist doesnt mean he cant exist right? simple.
• kecang_puteh

  26 Sep 06, 16:15

  Originally posted by kecang_puteh:
  Davidche, this is your post
  
  quote:
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  Originally posted by kecang_puteh:
  
  Bravo, you have just said it yourself. It doesn't mean that god can't be proven not to exist, has to exist. To put it another way, it doesn't mean that god has to exist if he can't be proven not to exist.
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  ya lah!! duh.....
  
  happy that you understand

  Originally posted by kecang_puteh:
  This is also your post
  
  quote:
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  Originally posted by kecang_puteh:
  Davidche, we are good friends right? We both agree that it doesn't mean god has to exist if he can't be proven not to exist. So, we share the same view on god.
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  actually no, your view on God is that God may exist.
  
  I believe that God exists and isnt limited by evidences or human's mind esp when he is the creator which makes him have the power to limit the human's mind to be limited.

  But why did you contradict yourself?
• davidche

  26 Sep 06, 16:48

  oh, so you mean i shldnt answer no??
  
  sorry then.
• kecang_puteh

  26 Sep 06, 16:54

  Originally posted by davidche:

  oh, so you mean i shldnt answer no??
  
  sorry then.

  You shouldn't have contradicted yourself.
• skyfoo

  26 Sep 06, 17:43

  Originally posted by davidche:

  young man, you still, have alot to learn ahead of you.
  
  Start by reading ppl posts.
  
  Next is to change your arrogant attitude.
  
  And pls dont depise ppl of other races.
  

  young boy, u better reflect on your words. i dun wish to comment.
• kaister

  26 Sep 06, 18:04

  I believe in the invisible pink unicorn...
  
  You cannot see it, so you cannot prove it does not exist - so therefore it must exist! Prove me wrong!!
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn