Must Singaporeans Behave Like Pig?
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Originally posted by shinta:wah so nice.. last time i sec 3 or sec 4 got no seats... den had to carry my books all the way till i reach woodlands standing =(
i was carrying so many books... think they reach my chest..... tt time so cham.. i wonder how i managed to board the bus...
think i was biting my bus pass...
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I agree with you on this... pple really need to change for the better & learning good manners definitely won't kill us.Originally posted by valentinoo:sometimes human need to change for the better..must admit ur Flaws, bad manners can be changed...if u eat like a pig u and spill ur food all over the table...why cant u clean it up a bit...be considerate..the problem with lots of singaporeans r that we not considerate, we act as if we own the place, bad manners etc...all this flaws can be changed what..not as if asked u to change for the worst...whats wrong with a bit of good manners..wont DIE lah
So do u think a lot & only Singaporeans are the ones behaving like pigs? -
i am rich...... in fats.Originally posted by valentinoo:singapore may be rich...but u rich or not?
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This is what a pig looks like. OINKs OINKs
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Ok, yah.. this is truly BAD for us. This is giving further crap-smears on our reputations as Singaporeans.Originally posted by dragg:Oct 14, 2006
The Straits Times
RECENTLY, my friend from Australia commented that Singaporeans behaved like pigs. I disagreed, saying that at most it's a small minority who behaved that way. He challenged me to a test. I accepted his challenge, determined to prove him wrong. I was bitterly disappointed.
Here is an account of what happened.
My friend, my wife, our one-year-old son in a pram and I (wearing a neck brace and with my arm in a sling from injuries sustained in a car accident) went for an MRT ride. My wife and son couldn't get into the station for some time because other commuters kept using the gate meant for the disabled, ignoring her and the pram.
When the train arrived, people rushed in while alighting passengers rushed out. No one gave way to my wife and the pram. She had to compete with the horde to get onto the train. To make things worse, those standing at the doorway refused to move in, making it even more difficult for her.
Once on board, no one bothered to give up his seat to my wife, who was carrying our son. Those seated were young, able-bodied and educated (executive-type) adults. Finally, it was two Thai workers who gave up their seats to us.
Later, an old woman boarded the train. Again, no one gave up his seat until a man in a neck brace and an arm sling did so.
When we reached our destination, we tried to take the lift from the platform to the ticket concourse. The lift was packed with able-bodied people. My friend asked that my wife and the pram be allowed in but one man turned around and remarked rudely, 'Why can't you take the next lift?'. I was shocked beyond words.
We went to a packed food court for lunch. No tables were available. We waited and finally noticed a couple leaving. We inched our way towards their table but, with just 5m to go, a group of office girls ran ahead of us and took the table.
When we finally got a table, it was unbelievably messy. There were chicken bones, spilt sauces and prawn shells all over the table.
I turned red in the face when my friend, who was helping to clear the table, asked, 'So, do you still think that it's only a minority of Singaporeans that behave this way? If so, take a look around you. Look real hard at the tables when they leave... You guys eat like pigs.'
Martin Goh Lye Thiam
But let me say that I see two things that made those commuters and people in general, not willing to give way or be considerate; 1) there is that word 'xenophobia' (some people don't like whites) so hence the remark from a man in the lift at the MRT station, 2) people here are taught to be self-preserving and money-centric, so hence no time for grace.
This I know is NO excuse at all for behaving like pigs, BUT if these Australians were to try this 'test' on weekends in some heartland MRT station, I think the results would be better.
I FEEL that people here in general, WERE brought up this way BY our GOV and their POLICIES.
I always stress the point; a child is brought up to become the WAY, the parents brought the child up!
If courtesy begins at home, then the characteristics of a people starts at the heart of the Nation - its GOVERNMENT. -
im not well travelled...i have been to korea, japan, australia, bali, malaysia, jakarta only...i find jakarta quite polluted, however the ppl r polite...same with bali..balinese are friendly, polite, as for japanese...when i took the train, i find them to be very quiet..they dont talked loudly..im surprised talking on handphone is not allowed in the train...and they r pretty orderly kind of ppl...they are clean n polite as well...australian is pretty multi cultured...not so bad...when i drove there, drivers are pretty laid back...when u signal to change lane..drivers actually slow down to let u in..unlike hereOriginally posted by oozie:I agree with you on this... pple really need to change for the better & learning good manners definitely won't kill us.
So do u think a lot & only Singaporeans are the ones behaving like pigs?
..here if u signal to change lane. the driver will drive faster and dont let u in
i have friends who are expatriates..they do think we have bad manners, like we dig our nose n spit in public...talked loudly...like to rush...
i believe they do Think singaporeans are like oink oink -
There is a difference in the lives of people in those countries you mentioned; first and formost, they have freedom - the ability to express themselves, second, they have a lot of space to live however they wish, three, pace of living is slower than ours.Originally posted by valentinoo:im not well travelled...i have been to korea, japan, australia, bali, malaysia, jakarta only...i find jakarta quite polluted, however the ppl r polite...same with bali..balinese are friendly, polite, as for japanese...when i took the train, i find them to be very quiet..they dont talked loudly..im surprised talking on handphone is not allowed in the train...and they r pretty orderly kind of ppl...they are clean n polite as well...australian is pretty multi cultured...not so bad...when i drove there, drivers are pretty laid back...when u signal to change lane..drivers actually slow down to let u in..unlike here ..here if u signal to change lane. the driver will drive faster and dont let u in
i have friends who are expatriates..they do think we have bad manners, like we dig our nose n spit in public...talked loudly...like to rush...
i believe they do Think singaporeans are like oink oink
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singapore fu.cking sucks
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Correction: the gov., not Singapore or its people.Originally posted by Cenarious:singapore fu.cking sucks -
Ladies & Gentlemen,
what you are reading about the piggish behaviour of quite some percentage of people at large in Singapore, are what is called EFFECTS.
You all must look deeper and see the CAUSE.
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Let me add some more:
The way schools are treating students like Royalties, you can be SURE, that the future society is going to be full of such PIGGISH people! -
OK let me ask u guys , after eating at fast food restaurant , like mac donald , burger king . etc , how many of u , after eating clear ur tray in de rubbish bin?
Cos everytime i notice maybe one or 2 will do it , And Also me. -
leave it to the cleaners.
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Leave it to the fast fd uncle and aunties lah. Let them excercise ad keep fit lah, serious.
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Originally posted by valentinoo:
im not well travelled...i have been to korea, japan, australia, bali, malaysia, jakarta only...i find jakarta quite polluted, however the ppl r polite...same with bali..balinese are friendly, polite, as for japanese...when i took the train, i find them to be very quiet..they dont talked loudly..im surprised talking on handphone is not allowed in the train...and they r pretty orderly kind of ppl...they are clean n polite as well...australian is pretty multi cultured...not so bad...when i drove there, drivers are pretty laid back...when u signal to change lane..drivers actually slow down to let u in..unlike here ..here if u signal to change lane. the driver will drive faster and dont let u in
i have friends who are expatriates..they do think we have bad manners, like we dig our nose n spit in public...talked loudly...like to rush...i believe they do Think singaporeans are like oink oink -
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its the u must be FIRST mentalityOriginally posted by ShutterBug:Ladies & Gentlemen,
what you are reading about the piggish behaviour of quite some percentage of people at large in Singapore, are what is called EFFECTS.
You all must look deeper and see the CAUSE.
its the "I pay u... u must serve me" mentality, just look at the way MAIDS are treated here, Horrible!
its the if "u dont help urself u will DIE, who cares about others, no one cares about me" mentality
anymore to add? -
I never put the clean the trays in the rubbish eh, but i do wrap all the chilli packings and the burger wrapper into the fries holder.Originally posted by gUms:OK let me ask u guys , after eating at fast food restaurant , like mac donald , burger king . etc , how many of u , after eating clear ur tray in de rubbish bin?
Cos everytime i notice maybe one or 2 will do it , And Also me.
In a way it looks neater lol.
I do the same to my bones when i eat at hawker, i try not to spit out on the table, just leave a space at the side of the edge of the plate -
That's nice of you.Originally posted by gUms:OK let me ask u guys , after eating at fast food restaurant , like mac donald , burger king . etc , how many of u , after eating clear ur tray in de rubbish bin?
Cos everytime i notice maybe one or 2 will do it , And Also me.
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I agree, there are Singaporeans behave in such a disgraceful manner, but that dun justify to say Singaporeans behave like pigs. Which country do not have such pple & oink oink... do u think it's funny name-calling especially in national level?Originally posted by valentinoo:its the u must be FIRST mentality
its the "I pay u... u must serve me" mentality, just look at the way MAIDS are treated here, Horrible!
its the if "u dont help urself u will DIE, who cares about others, no one cares about me" mentality
anymore to add?
SO u believe & agrees to what your expatriate frenz think, right... & When u said: "they do think WE have bad manners, like WE dig our nose n spit in public...talked loudly...like to rush..."
The 'WE' meaning u are a Singaporean yourself? -
pigs!
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I think the main problem with all these increasing bad public behaviors is the way government is pushing Spore to.
I am not blaming anyone, but just read through.
You all should know that Spore has a very strict law enforcement. This effective system enabled us to progress quickly out of the chaos Singapore is in during the post war period.
However, Spore grew too dependent on the law and punishments. Manners and proper moral values are not taught properly!
When I was in primary school (few years ago), i almost did not have any character development lessons in the entire year. Teachers just took the lessons meant for it to teach other subjects that are being tested.
Japan and Australia are being named as the best mannered country. Japan focus a lot on character development while Australia is well-known for its non-test based education.
Singaporeans only sees the need of behaving properly under the law. Here and there things you do are illegal in Singapore. The people is so tired and stressed from this everything-illegal system that they felt they can do anything as long as they don't get sued. Where's the morality part? -
Do he has the rights to say us? Not all of us behave like this...
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Poor fella. I've come across alot of boorish behavior too, so I empathize. Most S'poreans are not civic-minded.. that's like the antasis of "kiasu". I give up my seat and clean up after myself @ the foodcourt if the cleaners don't beat me to it first, but I seldom see others do it.. something must be wrong if majority of toilet and foodcourt cleaners in a "1st world" country are senior citizens.. and something is definitely terribly wrong when commonfolk leave a mess for them to clean up and justify it by saying "but it's their job, what".
That, plus the control-freak gahmen who so kindly throws us commonfolk scraps from time to time .. boy, it hardly instills a sense of National pride. -
its people who think this way that make the place so screwed upOriginally posted by dragg:leave it to the cleaners. 