Parents lodge a letter of complaint against my training
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pls lah.. dun insult gals ok.... even gals are better than that lahOriginally posted by mr_sotong:then u should recommend her a doctor who perform sex change..
knn.. how come boys r evolving to sissy?
mindef should consider changing the slogan "from boys to man" to "from boys to gu niang".. -
start from zero...Originally posted by banzie:SAF safety standard is 20 push up only....
lost count...start again...
not standard...start again...
someone never count...start again...
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No need laOriginally posted by R3SsH|n:start from zero...
lost count...start again...
not standard...start again...
someone never count...start again...
and the list goes on...
'Squad start pumping from -20!Stop at 20
How many push-ups u guys did?'
'20 sir!!!' -
Start from negative, number determined by NCOOriginally posted by R3SsH|n:start from zero...
lost count...start again...
not standard...start again...
someone never count...start again...
and the list goes on...
Or 8 beats per 1 count, in effect, 160 push ups -
How old are you?
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yea !!! i remember that , one of my most memmorable punishment ever hadOriginally posted by lpx88:No need la
'Squad start pumping from -20!Stop at 20
How many push-ups u guys did?'
'20 sir!!!'
during camp
NCO: today i good mood , all do 5 push up will do
*cadet excited* start cheering
NCO : let get counting , start from -45
*cadet sian diao* -
Originally posted by Unidentified:yea !!! i remember that , one of my most memmorable punishment ever had
during camp
NCO: today i good mood , all do 5 push up will do
*cadet excited* start cheering
NCO : let get counting , start from -45
*cadet sian diao* Maybe i will try that 
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there another version , 500 push up for all
all fall in in 1 straight line
all down to push up position
then everybody take turn to do 1 push up while staying in push up position until their turn
accumulate everyone pushup until it reach 500 -
my unsolicited advice, from a youth leader to another, is to let it go.Originally posted by Simon Dean:I am going to be aggressive in tomorrow's training and pick on that boy.
You havent seen my friend the real sadist yet.I still treat this sec 1s like little kids.
My friend does 200-300 pushups a day and expects his cadets to "accompany" him.
After that it is 2.4km and 10 sets of 12 burpees and lots of other sh!T like marching.
One sec 3 vomitted after the training like mad, another cried halfway.
Mine is talk damn nicely like i am their big brother.Slow jog of 1km only..sets of 10 pushups, 10 bodyweight squats.Eazy like hell right?
do you know that for his/her actions, your friend could be removed from his position of authority, under the current guidelines?
your task is to train them, yes, but above all, you have a duty of care, the duty to ensure that the cadet is not put in harm's way. given that he is already complaining from 10 pushups, imagine the consequences if you push him on, too much, too fast.
tackle the issue, not the person. as a youth leader you should know better than to let your emotions get the better of you.
Before your youthful impulsiveness get the better of you and you dismiss me as yet another young punk, I came a time when my sec 4 seniors would give a quota of 150 pushups, 20 chinups every saturday (yes we trained on saturdays then), in addition to the normal training programme, from 0700-1700hrs.
Remember, this is a CCA, not NS, my man.
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nowadays children are parents' precious leh..
a bit also cannot..
go NS hor yi si~! -
tell me about it, i had sec 1 kids doing that to me. the NCOs and CIs were already shaking like leaves behind them.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:LOL, you all steady. If the NCO says walk some more and we continue walking, we are dead meat. -
Originally posted by JasonC:
First time I hear "Duty of Care" in uniform groups. I've only learnt this first aid.
my unsolicited advice, from a youth leader to another, is to let it go.
do you know that for his/her actions, your friend could be removed from his position of authority, under the current guidelines?
your task is to train them, yes, but above all, you have a duty of care, the duty to ensure that the cadet is not put in harm's way. given that he is already complaining from 10 pushups, imagine the consequences if you push him on, too much, too fast.
tackle the issue, not the person. as a youth leader you should know better than to let your emotions get the better of you.
Before your youthful impulsiveness get the better of you and you dismiss me as yet another young punk, I came a time when my sec 4 seniors would give a quota of 150 pushups, 20 chinups every saturday (yes we trained on saturdays then), in addition to the normal training programme, from 0700-1700hrs.
Remember, this is a CCA, not NS, my man.
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heh agree brownie, I always say let them enjoy while they can, then they can die wearing green.Originally posted by browniebaobao:nowadays children are parents' precious leh..
a bit also cannot..
go NS hor yi si~!
but then again, NS is no longer that tough either... -
If we really walk our way, the NCOs and CIs can don't care. But once we are done with our walking, all gather.Originally posted by JasonC:tell me about it, i had sec 1 kids doing that to me. the NCOs and CIs were already shaking like leaves behind them.
Down with push ups, change position to sit ups, run and sing 2.4km at the same time.
And the push ups and sit ups got variations one hor...
Can't hear, miscount, lose count, not synchronized, repeat. Ultimate lor
My fitness is the best during sec school days after such torture. -
its NPCC- the new training framework whatOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:First time I hear "Duty of Care" in uniform groups. I've only learnt this first aid.
i believe it holds a different meaning from the first aid version. -
oh, my NCOs and CIs do care, for when i'm around, what the cadets do, they do double. the good old daysOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:If we really walk our way, the NCOs and CIs can don't care. But once we are done with our walking, all gather.
Down with push ups, change position to sit ups, run and sing 2.4km at the same time.
And the push ups and sit ups got variations one hor...
Can't hear, miscount, lose count, not synchronized, repeat. Ultimate lor
My fitness is the best during sec school days after such torture. -
Oh...Originally posted by JasonC:its NPCC- the new training framework what
i believe it holds a different meaning from the first aid version. -
My days no have lehOriginally posted by JasonC:oh, my NCOs and CIs do care, for when i'm around, what the cadets do, they do double. the good old days
Whatever lah, those NCOs and CIs have done more than us, so fair lor. -
unit culture, mayi, it's over anywayOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:My days no have leh
Whatever lah, those NCOs and CIs have done more than us, so fair lor. -
I believe it's there...imagine say a group of students being punished to do 100 pushups in the parade square under the hot sun for example...Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:First time I hear "Duty of Care" in uniform groups. I've only learnt this first aid.
if nothing happens...its training.
if something happens...I dont think the instructor can hide behind the "I am training them to be MEN" excuse lor...As an instructor...yes he needs to make sure standards are met....but in the example...can the instructor reasonably say that he has cared for the students but things unfortunately happen?
A good example would be the water-dunking case in SAF Hendon Camp.
Instructors found to be criminally responsible. -
Bingo Xcert!
the dunking incident slipped my mind, but that was an excellent example. -
shouldnt this be handled by the teachers?
Your cca teachers should be responsible for this -
Break up into two groups make them compete against each other. Say whoever wins have mystery prize. Make them excited!!Originally posted by Simon Dean:Can someone help me think of a watered-down boys' scout training regime.I need one for tomorrow before another complaint gets lodged against me.
Station number 1. How many pushups can the entire group contribute. Everyone just do their max, and the numbers are recorded and display on a whiteboard. Because of the competition, the weak will feel pressured to perform. Everyone will eventually take note of those who tried their best and those who 'siam'.
Station 2: (Interval training.) Everyone will have to bring the stones over here, to the basket 100 metres away. Everyone can one carry one stone at any one time. Everyone should sprint with the stone to the basket, then jog back to the starting point to collect the second stone, and sprint again. First team to move all the stones win.
*Watch out for people who cheat by taking more than 1 stone. Then punish the whole team for dishonesty, but not identifying the culprit.
Hence you are training the kids physically. You can be beside the weaker kids shouting encouragement about helping the team to win. Put on you best "fatherly" face.
End of the day the kids will not be as likely to complain to their parents against you as they are putting in effort for the team, and not "kana punish" by a "monster" instructor.
Even if parent complains, you can explain by praising the kid did his best to help his team win, and hence the kid have great team spirit. (Suck up to the parent on his/her kid). The parent will feel good that his/her kid is popular and hence may just let the matter rest.
The prize could be holding the leg raise for 15 sec while the loser team holds it for 50 sec!. Let the winning team participate in counting down for the loser team. Let them "takan" the loser abit. While you keep encouraging the loser team to pull through, show them they are man enough to take the challenge, and emphasis that they'll have their revenge next time!! -
"Duty of Care" applies when someone is given authority to train, coach, etc a group in this case students. The leader has the duty to ensure safety and take reasonably precautions.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:First time I hear "Duty of Care" in uniform groups. I've only learnt this first aid.
Say 20 years 10km run for soldiers is just a warm up, but now, soldiers are weak and cannot take 10km run, maybe only 100m. Then as a leader you have to do 100m, perhaps stretching them a little to 125m.
The people you train are different.
Can you be responsible when some major happens? Even if you can, do you want to be?? -
lolwtf.Originally posted by Simon Dean:I am take charge of the Sec 1s for St Johns.
Since they are still very small-sized and young.I do not make them do more than 20 pushups a set.And i do not pick on their pushup technique so much like i do for sec 2 and 3s.
Yet this mother complained that i forced her son to do more than 10 pushups in a set and his arms ached.She had to apply cream blah blah blah, very painful.
Her son sucks also, dont even know how to apply cream.Just squeeze the cream in a big patch and leave it there without spreading.