Should the Hwa Chong student be suspended?
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Its not a punching matchOriginally posted by BillyBong:Definitely no argument there
The question is how it came to a punching match.
Its one side bash up
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Why would any 'thief' be that dumb to wait?Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:I mean after the punch, he didn't run away right, He's waiting for the cops to come right?
Then again, punching a person in public is no longer a seizable offence, unless you punched a civil servant in the performance of his/her duties.
So...no fear!
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Hey...it's STILL non-seizable....Originally posted by laurence82:Its not a punching match
Its one side bash up 
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i rmb lastime a certain teacher from a certain CI told the whole school, ' If you disturb the teacher, a civil servant, from performing his/her duties you may very well be suspended or expelled. 'Originally posted by BillyBong:Why would any 'thief' be that dumb to wait?
Then again, punching a person in public is no longer a seizable offence, unless you punched a civil servant in the performance of his/her duties.
So...no fear! -
means punching BC is morally right and passengers should allow the chap to go off and police shouldnt do anything about it?Originally posted by BillyBong:Hey...it's STILL non-seizable.... -
It is not a punching match, bus unker did not retaliate.Originally posted by BillyBong:Definitely no argument there
The question is how it came to a punching match. -
some people just cannot see truth as it is.... this case is really cut and dry, yet some still want to defend the miscreant.Originally posted by laurence82:means punching BC is morally right and passengers should allow the chap to go off and police shouldnt do anything about it? -
i can't believe nobody able to understand anything at all
either they just want to defend the kid, because they are from jc as well
or they are plainly too naive to understand, that you just can't punch a person, no matter what, this offence, can be a result of prison terms, but for his age, he should be sentence by 2 years of probation, otherwise it will be totally unfair and it will send out a signal to the public that it is ok, for an elite to punch a person
then next time, whichever nick is from an elite school, i will bash their thread, till it has been locked
because it is right for me to do so! -
as i said in my previous reply to ur previous message about is the HCI boy free from all blame. think u did not see itOriginally posted by BillyBong:Why would any 'thief' be that dumb to wait?
Then again, punching a person in public is no longer a seizable offence, unless you punched a civil servant in the performance of his/her duties.
So...no fear!
what i said in my previous reply to ur previous post of that means that u are getting out of point. u are ACTUALLY linking this with my previous reply. u are pointing the good points of the boy to the BAD points of the bus captain. u are saying that the boy should be excused for this offence that he commit. at least a lenient punishment like 100 hours of community service yes. but u think that he should be getting away from his crime scot-free without even a punishment and with just a warning? u are trying to say that the boy should be given a warning and the bus captain is to blame?Originally posted by BusSpeeder:this shows that you do not know what's happening now. you are saying that the bus driver is trying to act as a cop so as to earn merit points from the bus company. EVERY BUS CAPTAIN HAS THE RIGHT TO ACT AS A COP if he/she deemed that if this person is using a stolen card, he HAS THE RIGHT to take it away from him. the immediate reaction of the bus captain DO NOT MEAN that the girl has stole the ezlink card. every bus captain's reaction react THIS WAY when he/she feels that someone stole another person's card.
nextly, this may not be one "nice driver as you said". but at least this bus captain enforces the bus company's law, in which the bus company should/might give him a merit for it.
thirdly, the bus captain might be at fault, but HE DID try to bar them from leaving. don't forget, if the student and his girlfriend is still in the bus, when the bus inspector come after the bus driver radioed to SBS Transit, for the bus inspector to go in, the front/back door will have to be opened,where they might even make a dash for it once more. even if the driver's door opens and the driver gets out, they can even go out from the drivers door when the bus captain is not looking since the bus captain would most likely be outside the bus. you said about the manual door activation, DON'T FORGET they can make a run from it still, by actually crouching underneath the bus captain. the bus captain couldn't be that fat.
lastly, giving the driver the sympathy vote is correct because the boy DID PUNCH the bus captain, who is more elder than him. by punching the bus captain, he is showing disrespectfulness to someone who is actually older than him and furthermore do you think people will actually support this person who is only in his adolescence who just punch someone who might be already 50 something years old? there still is hope for this student since people will most likely forget this incident already anyway.
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thats whyOriginally posted by Chin Eng:some people just cannot see truth as it is.... this case is really cut and dry, yet some still want to defend the miscreant.
i still dont understand
this is clearly battery (as opposed to assault)
how far or how right can it get? -
that FELLOW should be punished by 2 YEARS OF PROBATION, AT LEAST!Originally posted by BusSpeeder:what i said in my previous reply to ur previous post of that means that u are getting out of point. u are pointing the good points of the boy to the BAD points of the bus captain. u are saying that the boy should be excused for this offence that he commit. at least a lenient punishment like 100 hours of community service yes. but u think that he should be getting away from his crime scot-free without even a punishment and with just a warning?
are you from an elite school as well!
because those elite wannabe are my favourite topic, the last person, who call ite students are all loser, got himself banned!
so why are you still defending a person who is outright WRONG! -
EVEN YOU PUNCH A RUDE FELLOW, DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE IS RUDE, AND YOU CAN PUNCH HIM!
ASSAULT IS PUNISHABLE BY JAIL TERM
AND HE ASSAULT A CIVIL SERVANT! -
What happen to him now?
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IF I EVER FIND OUT WHAT IS THE SENTENCE OF THAT BOY, AND WHAT HE GOT WAS MERELY A WARNING OR EVEN COMMUNITY SERVICE
I SWEAR TO GOD, I WILL WRITE AN ESSAY TO THE NEWS HOLDING
AND QUESTION THE JUDGEMENT OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, -
urm assault is verbal, battery is physical, legalspeakOriginally posted by allentyb:EVEN YOU PUNCH A RUDE FELLOW, DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE IS RUDE, AND YOU CAN PUNCH HIM!
ASSAULT IS PUNISHABLE BY JAIL TERM
AND HE ASSAULT A CIVIL SERVANT!
anyway, this guy not public servant lar, but no matter what, cannot punch
if can, i think there will be riots coz everyone can punch their enemies -
u SERIOUSLY do not get what i mean. im not defending the boy in ANY WAY. in fact im trying to prove to billybong that this boy should actually be punished for his crime and not to be given with just a warning. im saying that the boy should be given off with a lenient offence, with at least 100 hours of community service. i did not say that im trying to protect the boy in any way. pls look at my posts before u say that im trying to protect him and no im from a neighbourhood school. and this HCI student did do something wrong and i did not say that im defending him just because i think he's right. in fact i am saying that he's wrong.Originally posted by allentyb:that FELLOW should be punished by 2 YEARS OF PROBATION, AT LEAST!
are you from an elite school as well!
because those elite wannabe are my favourite topic, the last person, who call ite students are all loser, got himself banned!
so why are you still defending a person who is outright WRONG! -
exactly, this boy is a bad example to the students in singapore.Originally posted by laurence82:urm assault is verbal, battery is physical, legalspeak
anyway, this guy not public servant lar, but no matter what, cannot punch
if can, i think there will be riots coz everyone can punch their enemies -
YOU ARE ASKING PEOPLE TO BE LENIENT IN A CASE, which is outright, it is his fault and furthermore, do you really think, 100 hours of community service is a fair sentenceOriginally posted by BusSpeeder:u SERIOUSLY do not get what i mean. im not defending the boy in ANY WAY. in fact im trying to prove to billybong that this boy should actually be punished for his crime and not to be given with just a warning. im saying that the boy should be given off with a lenient offence, with at least 100 hours of community service. i did not say that im trying to protect the boy in any way. pls look at my posts before u say that im trying to protect him and no im from a neighbourhood school. and this HCI student did do something wrong and i did not say that im defending him just because i think he's right. in fact i am saying that he's wrong.
the answer is NO!
HE USE VIOLENCE ON A BUS, A BUS DRIVER WHO IS SERVING THE PUBLIC, AN ACT OF VIOLENCE, THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE, HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED BY 2 YEARS OF PROBATION! -
Originally posted by allentyb:
what has the judgement of the law enforcement has to do with you? you are not their uprank or something. if you write an essay to the news holding, they will think that you are actually crazy to be actually complaining to the news holding. you think the news holding will reply to your complaint?
IF I EVER FIND OUT WHAT IS THE SENTENCE OF THAT BOY, AND WHAT HE GOT WAS MERELY A WARNING OR EVEN COMMUNITY SERVICE
I SWEAR TO GOD, I WILL WRITE AN ESSAY TO THE NEWS HOLDING
[b]AND QUESTION THE JUDGEMENT OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, [/b] -
i said AT LEAST WITH 100 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE. not even lenient than that. try and listen. since he was violent, community service will actually calm him down. DO YOU THINK THAT JUST BY GIVING HIM PROBATION will he be calmed? let him do community service and at least he will learn to help people and not to be rude to ELDERS. the key word is ELDERS. if he assaulted the bus captain until he was in a coma, i would say he deserved at least 10 years of jail term but in this case, he DID NOT. he needs a punishment which will calm him down and by putting him on probation, it works. but do you think he will repent after that? he will feel that its NOTHING. let him DO SOME WORK in community to learn some hardship. by probating him, do u think he learns hardship? HE DID USE VIOLENCE. but just by that violence, the police came, proving that he's actually SCARED OF THE POLICE. he did bluff though. if he did another offence, he should be given a severe punishment.Originally posted by allentyb:YOU ARE ASKING PEOPLE TO BE LENIENT IN A CASE, which is outright, it is his fault and furthermore, do you really think, 100 hours of community service is a fair sentence
the answer is NO!
HE USE VIOLENCE ON A BUS, A BUS DRIVER WHO IS SERVING THE PUBLIC, AN ACT OF VIOLENCE, THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE, HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED BY 2 YEARS OF PROBATION! -
i pay taxes, doesn't mean i don't have any right to question them mehOriginally posted by BusSpeeder:what has the judgement of the law enforcement has to do with you? you are not their uprank or something. if you write an essay to the news holding, they will think that you are actually crazy to be actually complaining to the news holding. you think the news holding will reply to your complaint?
i don't have to be their up rank in order to question them
and i write an essay to press holding, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN IN THE NEWSPAPER, and there are more negative writing about the boy from the public
so please read more news article then comment
furthermore, there are alot of people calling for his blood to be spill
not just me! it is you who don't have a clue about, the seriousness of punching a fellow and comment on asking people to be lenient to him
do you really think, that would please the pubic
this news is very news worthy, and i complain to the news holding, not directly to the police enforcement.
DO YOU GET THE PICTURE, HUH?
THIS IS A CLEAR CUT CASE, who is in fault, therefore HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED ACCORDINGLY TO WHAT THE LAW HAS STATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS PROBATION LIKE!Originally posted by BusSpeeder:i said AT LEAST WITH 100 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE. not even lenient than that. try and listen. since he was violent, community service will actually calm him down. DO YOU THINK THAT JUST BY GIVING HIM PROBATION will he be calmed? let him do community service and at least he will learn to help people and not to be rude to ELDERS. the key word is ELDERS. if he assaulted the bus captain until he was in a coma, i would say he deserved at least 10 years of jail term but in this case, he DID NOT. he needs a punishment which will calm him down and by putting him on probation, it works. but do you think he will repent after that? he will feel that its NOTHING. let him DO SOME WORK in community to learn some hardship. by probating him, do u think he learns hardship.
RESTRICTING HIS MOVEMENT, HE HAS TO REPORT TO THE COUNSELLOR AND IT IS A NORM SENTENCE FOR ALL TEENAGE AND FURTHERMORE, WHAT HE DID, IS WORSE THAN STEALING
and if an ah beng was to commit these sort of act, nobody will care, and in the new paper, every single one, is calling for his blood! -
in that sense, yes. but did i say that i DID NOT AGREE on the 2 years of probation? i said that at least with 100 hours of community service. if higher, even better. but what u are saying is that HE DESERVES TO BE JAILED.Originally posted by allentyb:i pay taxes, doesn't mean i don't have any right to question them meh
i don't have to be their up rank in order to question them
and i write an essay to press holding, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN IN THE NEWSPAPER, and there are more negative writing about the boy from the public
so please read more news article then comment
furthermore, there are alot of people calling for his blood to be spill
not just me! it is you who don't have a clue about, the seriousness of punching a fellow and comment on asking people to be lenient to him
do you really think, that would please the pubic
this news is very news worthy, and i complain to the news holding, not directly to the police enforcement.
DO YOU GET THE PICTURE, HUH?
THIS IS A CLEAR CUT CASE, who is in fault, therefore HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED ACCORDINGLY TO WHAT THE LAW HAS STATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
shouldn't he deserve to be jailedOriginally posted by BusSpeeder:in that sense, yes. but did i say that i DID NOT AGREE on the 2 years of probation? i said that at least with 100 hours of community service. if higher, even better. but what u are saying is that HE DESERVES TO BE JAILED.
tell me, wah you punched somebody, i can get off with 100 hours of community service, is it?
it is accordingly to the law what has been stated, it is punishable by jail term, are you kidding me, here? HUH? -
fine i did misconclude the meaning of probation. mayb i was TOO LENIENT. i might as well say that HE SHOULD BE EXECUTED FOR ASSAULTINGOriginally posted by allentyb:YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS PROBATION LIKE!
RESTRICTING HIS MOVEMENT, HE HAS TO REPORT TO THE COUNSELLOR AND IT IS A NORM SENTENCE FOR ALL TEENAGE AND FURTHERMORE, WHAT HE DID, IS WORSE THAN STEALING
and if an ah beng was to commit these sort of act, nobody will care, and in the new paper, every single one, is calling for his blood!