A B E but no place in University.. Den parent blames Unis..
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If she want to go in art and social science, Sure no problem one. I think she
trying to get into business Adm or accounting.. that one with this kind of result
sure cannot get in one. Even not year of dragon. Roflz I think the parent just
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singapore unis...YAWN
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i notice the entry requirements for locals are damn low compared to FTs....
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I bet you she applied for courses like engineering, accountancy etc.
ABE can easily get a place in any of the unis, naturally, with limits of course selection. -
thats true..she should be able to get into most courses in ntu n nus, except for probably chem engineering, law, accountacy, etc....Originally posted by rmyfrm:I bet you she applied for courses like engineering, accountancy etc.
ABE can easily get a place in any of the unis, naturally, with limits of course selection. -
i read the article in the straits times today... the writer is a HE... and his daughter applied to arts and social science in all three unis..... and all of them rejected her...
an E is a lousy grade.. one more grade down and its a 'O'... meaning u passed the A level subject with only a 'o' level standard understanding of it and is not considered an A level pass...
i think what contributed to her not getting a place in uni is probably her gp grade.... for gp.... the subject is taken at AO level... meaning the grading is the same as that for any o level subject.. hence a C is juz a pass... any lower would be fail... meaning D7
and she applied for humanities course... which requires good liguistic skills... which she clearly lacked... hence of cos she got rejected... but if she applied for enigine... then things might have been diff....
anyways ABE C5/C6 is not an avg grade... it is below the avg... but not entirely at the extreme either.... if that was an avg grade...anybody juz below the avg would have failed one subject...
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I think you guys are assuming that the daughter applied for those good course such as law and medicine which requires good grades. The actual fact may be that she applied for perhaps courses like arts which has lower requirements and yet got rejected despite scoring ABE. This prompted her mother to write in to the papers.
And before we throw criticism at the mother, we should understand her point of view.
First I believe she had use her son as an example because she believes that the daughter achieve a similar grade as her son. ABC. She believes her daughter's GP result should be taken into consideration and since they had the same result, her daughter should be able to admit into university. Therefore, I feel that you guys are pouring criticism on her without understanding from her point of view.
Secondly, did the university raise their requirements due to the larger number of applicants such that an ABE is now unable to gain admission to the university? If that is so, then she has a case for complaint as her daughter is eligible for studies but yet unable to do so due to logistic issue. Imagine the anguish that one would feel when he is denied of undertaking a project despite knowing that he has the capability to do so. Moreover, this is a social problem where we are unable to provide education to our youth even though they had the capability to achieve higher education.
Thirdly, I believe the mother is thinking about NUI or NUC (university of india and university of china). Our local university had quite a number of foreign students who came here on MOE scholarship. That is, Singapore sponsoring them part of or their full tertiary education in Singapore. This is an expense of local students who are unable to gain admission to university despite their ability to do so. If local university are not taking in local students, then who will?
Honestly, I am surprised to see so much criticism against the mother. I am waiting for the response from our universities and I want to learn the reasons for her rejection. Because it would be a sad day if her daughter was rejected due to limited places and yet our universities are taking in foreign students! -
A, B, E is definitely NOT above average...
That writer should be more realistic about her daugther's abilities... I don't think any parent whose child has the above grades have any cause to complain. -
hi matleep.. I believe C and E is a vast difference.. Moreover, the daughter got a C for GP, not an A.. So unless her daughter got an A, perhaps, she haf sum basis for complain..Originally posted by matleep:First I believe she had use her son as an example because she believes that the daughter achieve a similar grade as her son. ABC. She believes her daughter's GP result should be taken into consideration and since they had the same result, her daughter should be able to admit into university. Therefore, I feel that you guys are pouring criticism on her without understanding from her point of view. -
uni admission is all about...well theorectically, demand and supply.
There are so limited places in the unis, and now with the dragon year there are more applicants trying to fill the uni. Remember each year would have some places reserved for returning NS man. So the figures given 15,000 for example is admission for a whole cohort, poly and JC students, both boys and girls.
And so all unis, given limited vacancies, will want the best to fill in their places. You can consider this a selfish move, but if all unis take in every Singaporean, regardless of grades.. and these people at the end of the 4 years still fail to do well, it won't reflect well on the university.
Having saif that, I agree the system should try to take in more local students... but all unis are trying to be internationally renowed... and that means trying to attract foreign students in too.... not an easy balance i assume... and so leads to such 'loyalty' problems. -
Maths paper hard anot depend on whether you know how to apply and use the formula anot.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Nothing wrong, just that her mum is not happy.
And this is not the first time such things happened to dragon babies.
PSLE - Maths paper too hard.
O Levels Biology - Wrong facts given, students waste time figuring out what's wrong, complain to teacher, teacher says it's correct (that one is laughable, I wonder if our teachers return their knowledge to their teachers
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Now, uni entrance.
It's already too common until it isn't wrong.
Biology papers are one of most easily paper out of the 3Sci. If the question really got problem and student should complain to the teacher mah. If the teacher still say correct hor, then ask to see the CPE.
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A, B, E is actually very bad compared to the kind of grades a'level students produce now. the mum has a problem with her ego.
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ABC - high avgOriginally posted by aiglosicicle:A, B, E is actually very bad compared to the kind of grades a'level students produce now. the mum has a problem with her ego.
ABD - avg
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That's the problem. Whoever said exam smart muggers are more talented just because they have proven they can regurgitate on command?Originally posted by aiglosicicle:A, B, E is actually very bad compared to the kind of grades a'level students produce now. the mum has a problem with her ego. -
how abt grades B C D? any comments?
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Auntie....your daughter's grades really suck. She either didnt put in the effort or she is naturally stupid but with a big ego like you. She being a Dragon baby should have realised long ago that competition is tough, not to mention Singapore's Education system is stringent.
Auntie. Your son honestly speaking ain't too bright either. With a second class honours in arts and social sciences, do you really think he'll get far in life? Ok maybe he's good in other things or charismatic, but with that kind of grades he can't go far.
Auntie. Sorry to burst your bubble, but your kids are dumb. Please wake up and get a reality check ok?
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ABE is definitely an above average grade in terms of the cohorts performance NOT admission average. It is at least a grade that would ensure u a place in U in other years.
So all u cock-heads who believe tat the girl is stupid ought to be shot dead and bleed profusely to death.... u guys have NO freaking idea about the A level average grades.
Though i do believe that in branded or more established colleges, ABE is like extremely mediocre, it fares rather well in mid-tier colleges, and needless to say, tail-end colleges.
In fact, in school likes NY and CJ, such grades are considerably praise-worthy.
However, the dad consoled by the fact that even my friend, who has ABD, is declined a place in all three institutes.... -
Please ignore this sense-less bastard cos he totally neglected the fact that the auntie's son might have gotten 2nd upper hons which is aint that easy to get... esp in fassOriginally posted by yellowtofuwarrior:Auntie....your daughter's grades really suck. She either didnt put in the effort or she is naturally stupid but with a big ego like you. She being a Dragon baby should have realised long ago that competition is tough, not to mention Singapore's Education system is stringent.
Auntie. Your son honestly speaking ain't too bright either. With a second class honours in arts and social sciences, do you really think he'll get far in life? Ok maybe he's good in other things or charismatic, but with that kind of grades he can't go far.
Auntie. Sorry to burst your bubble, but your kids are dumb. Please wake up and get a reality check ok?
Take care Auntie : )
besides, for 1st hons, u gotta be rather smart .... or shud i say... lucky!
PS:if someone with abd and abe is like declined a place in u... bcd is like IN YOUR DREAMS! -
dats wat i was thinking? one big fat E screaming out loud still good ah? somemore GP only C???Originally posted by motoway:E is the Problem.. A and B is no problem.. But a C for GP? A B E C? GOOD MEH?
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Is it possible to retake the E grade subject, then combine results and enter in the next in-take?
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the mother stupid lah. she shd be happy that she can save on sch fees
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Obviously you did not read the post just above yours.Originally posted by matleep:I think you guys are assuming that the daughter applied for those good course such as law and medicine which requires good grades. The actual fact may be that she applied for perhaps courses like arts which has lower requirements and yet got rejected despite scoring ABE. This prompted her mother to write in to the papers.
And before we throw criticism at the mother, we should understand her point of view.
First I believe she had use her son as an example because she believes that the daughter achieve a similar grade as her son. ABC. She believes her daughter's GP result should be taken into consideration and since they had the same result, her daughter should be able to admit into university. Therefore, I feel that you guys are pouring criticism on her without understanding from her point of view.
Secondly, did the university raise their requirements due to the larger number of applicants such that an ABE is now unable to gain admission to the university? If that is so, then she has a case for complaint as her daughter is eligible for studies but yet unable to do so due to logistic issue. Imagine the anguish that one would feel when he is denied of undertaking a project despite knowing that he has the capability to do so. Moreover, this is a social problem where we are unable to provide education to our youth even though they had the capability to achieve higher education.
Thirdly, I believe the mother is thinking about NUI or NUC (university of india and university of china). Our local university had quite a number of foreign students who came here on MOE scholarship. That is, Singapore sponsoring them part of or their full tertiary education in Singapore. This is an expense of local students who are unable to gain admission to university despite their ability to do so. If local university are not taking in local students, then who will?
Honestly, I am surprised to see so much criticism against the mother. I am waiting for the response from our universities and I want to learn the reasons for her rejection. Because it would be a sad day if her daughter was rejected due to limited places and yet our universities are taking in foreign students! -
ABE above avg meh?
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How about grades DEAD?
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All parents love their kids, you have to forgive the mother. She won't rest till she tried all avenues of 'appeal' which may (or may not) help her daughter.
To get a A, and a B, the daughter must've been a hardworking (perhaps not too talented, in studying) student, at the very least. Just too bad she has that E, and a poor GP grade. Try SIM instead. Singapore does try to provide all willing students with good education. (what i meant was, SIM isn't a bad school, either)