Ramadan

• JJxJJ

  23 Sep 08, 19:07

  selamat berbuka

• Volvo Olympian

  23 Sep 08, 23:15

  Counting down : 8 days to hari raya , lol
• QX179R

  23 Sep 08, 23:16

  can't wait ~

• Short Ninja

  23 Sep 08, 23:17

  Originally posted by Master -_-:

  
  Thai-British-Japanese

  Born a Muslim, will die as one...

  
  you more kenchang than me>LOL

• JJxJJ

  24 Sep 08, 02:31

  Originally posted by Volvo Olympian:

  Counting down : 8 days to hari raya , lol

  7, beech!

   

   

  WOOOHOOOOO

• Gauze

  24 Sep 08, 20:46

  Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:

  but when it comes to questioning opposing witnesses and the opposition and such at the stand... It's like what ppl would say, Fitnah?

  Sometimes the person didn't do anything, on the stand the lawyer would accuse him/her... Something like that...

  The situation in the courtroom is adversarial, yes, and it is all an exercise in passing judgement. It will be hard to call this fitnah though, because the questions and assertions of the lawyers are not mere personal opinions of bad taste - they are operations of inquiry and morever, they are under the restraints of legal maxims and writs.

  Anyway, I've never managed a full month of fasting. Always got a few days overly tempted by food. How you all doing so far also...

  Btw, if you're working already, don't forget to send the green ang paos to me okay? Thanks.

• Fs4751

  24 Sep 08, 23:48

  Originally posted by Gauze:

  The situation in the courtroom is adversarial, yes, and it is all an exercise in passing judgement. It will be hard to call this fitnah though, because the questions and assertions of the lawyers are not mere personal opinions of bad taste - they are operations of inquiry and morever, they are under the restraints of legal maxims and writs.

  Anyway, I've never managed a full month of fasting. Always got a few days overly tempted by food. How you all doing so far also...

  Btw, if you're working already, don't forget to send the green ang paos to me okay? Thanks.

  to you only ah?..what about the rest of the muslim forumers here?..hehe

• JJxJJ

  25 Sep 08, 04:37

  do we have to give green packets during NS?

• Soosiangong

  25 Sep 08, 13:03

  I am a Chinese non-Muslim who like to point out that I observe some Muslims never fast during Ramadan and are not ill at all.

• huzane89

  25 Sep 08, 13:21

  Originally posted by Soosiangong:

  I am a Chinese non-Muslim who like to point out that I observe some Muslims never fast during Ramadan and are not ill at all.

  
  Why should they be ill? They never fast its up to them and god. I think no one, regardless of muslim or non-muslim should interfere in their activities.

• Deino

  25 Sep 08, 18:37

  Originally posted by Soosiangong:

  I am a Chinese non-Muslim who like to point out that I observe some Muslims never fast during Ramadan and are not ill at all.

  your point being?

• Master -_-

  25 Sep 08, 18:44

  Originally posted by Soosiangong:

  I am a Chinese non-Muslim who like to point out that I observe some Muslims never fast during Ramadan and are not ill at all.

  
  

• QX179R

  25 Sep 08, 18:47

  Originally posted by Soosiangong:

  I am a Chinese non-Muslim who like to point out that I observe some Muslims never fast during Ramadan and are not ill at all.

  so you trying to create some "war" isn't it..

• Deino

  25 Sep 08, 18:58

  lols

• sinicker

  25 Sep 08, 19:24

  Originally posted by Master -_-:

  
  

  i quote first!

• Superbus

  25 Sep 08, 19:41

  Originally posted by Soosiangong:

  I am a Chinese non-Muslim who like to point out that I observe some Muslims never fast during Ramadan and are not ill at all.

  Noted with thanks.

• dinky1409

  25 Sep 08, 21:45

  Originally posted by Soosiangong:

  I am a Chinese non-Muslim who like to point out that I observe some Muslims never fast during Ramadan and are not ill at all.

  
  next time u just go up to them and scold dem lor.. den u owns..

• Volvo Olympian

  26 Sep 08, 23:30

  3-4 more days to hari raya , wow! thats fast

• QX179R

  27 Sep 08, 00:14

  yeah, time really flies & we're gonna welcome the month of october soon..

• Lord_Nazrul

  27 Sep 08, 17:18

  Originally posted by fudgester:

  Huh? Where did you hear this from?

  Then what's the point of having a justice system if it's haram/makruh to be a lawyer?

  isnt it?law works in such a way that the best debater wins.if i hav a client that i knw is guilty but i still try his case and acquit him,isnt it wrong?anyways,thats the logic that my friends presented me with.morally wrong at least.

• fudgester

  27 Sep 08, 18:55

  Originally posted by Lord_Nazrul:

  isnt it?law works in such a way that the best debater wins.if i hav a client that i knw is guilty but i still try his case and acquit him,isnt it wrong?anyways,thats the logic that my friends presented me with.morally wrong at least.

  => *Points to Gauze's post*.....

• sinicker

  28 Sep 08, 04:04

  i've just completed my lab report at such an ungodly time. later morning gonna visit my late mom's grave, tuition in the afternoon and F1 at night. dad gave $ to buy baju kurung but with a maths quiz on tues, i dont even know when i'll go down to get one. tuesday itself??

• Volvo Olympian

  28 Sep 08, 15:01

  Originally posted by sinicker:

  i've just completed my lab report at such an ungodly time. later morning gonna visit my late mom's grave, tuition in the afternoon and F1 at night. dad gave $ to buy baju kurung but with a maths quiz on tues, i dont even know when i'll go down to get one. tuesday itself??

  Hmm , last min shopping? heh..

• Gauze

  28 Sep 08, 15:49

  Originally posted by Fs4751:

  to you only ah?..what about the rest of the muslim forumers here?..hehe

  JJxJJ hints he is gonna give them! *Lines up chop first place before JJxJJ*

  Originally posted by dinky1409:

  
  next time u just go up to them and scold dem lor.. den u owns..

   

  Wtf lol lol.

  Originally posted by Lord_Nazrul:

  isnt it?law works in such a way that the best debater wins.if i hav a client that i knw is guilty but i still try his case and acquit him,isnt it wrong?anyways,thats the logic that my friends presented me with.morally wrong at least.

  I believe many would say that is how lawyer jokes come about. As far as I know, there is no blanket prohibition on being a lawyer and maybe we should ask the muslim lawyers themselves how they reconcile with this or avoid it.

  The situation you described is experienced by the Prophet too when he was asked to act as a judge and arbiter. "I am but a human being. When you bring a dispute to me, some of you may be more eloquent in stating their cases than others. I may consequently adjudicate on the basis of what I hear. If I adjudicate in favour of someone a thing that belongs to his brother, let him not take it. For it would be like taking a piece of fire." Muslims scholars use this hadith to say that an error in a legal decision is an ever present possibility.

  If you're interested in self-research of how muslims administer justice under different court procedures, if I'm not wrong, you can find it in books of jurisprudence under headings of adab al-qada and fiqh al-muhakamat.

   

   

• Meat Pao

  28 Sep 08, 22:34

  I send my greeting and felicitation.......

   

  Meat Pao