Clash b/w Jc and Poly students on local uni admission..
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Originally posted by Agenda:
As for the rest of your statements, please read my previous replies before your embarass yourself again.
Dont give bullshit like that, it just shows that you are incapable of putting together a coherent rebuttal to that discursive ass whooping.
It makes me someone with a superiority complex who shamelessly delights in taking down punks with inferior intellects
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Originally posted by HyperionDCZ:
Bosses of the fish farms and bubble tea shops? you bet!
And just to be clear, I'm taking a dig at the ass clown JC bashers, not poly kids in general.
So its about the money or the status ? I rather have the cash in my hands instead of the status. And bosses of fish farms and bubble tea shops is it really that bad lol ?
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Originally posted by multipleviews:
this freak agenda cant accept the truth. he is trying so hard to convince himself tat poly education is the best.jc students don't like to bash poly system for they do not want to appear elistic. but it's disgusting to see somebody inferior criticising the superior system and thinks he's smart bcos nobbody from the superior system said anything...
Nothing much there... apart from raging comments
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Originally posted by TTFU:
So its about the money or the status ? I rather have the cash in my hands instead of the status. And bosses of fish farms and bubble tea shops is it really that bad lol ?
mmm I like your style, very mature. my point about fish farms and tea shops is centered around the reasoning that with a poly education you have to get lucky, whereas JC comes with a better chance of success. Think about this, a kid in medical school now has a far more certain future compared with that future fish farm towkay somewhere.
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Originally posted by HyperionDCZ:
mmm I like your style, very mature. my point about fish farms and tea shops is centered around the reasoning that with a poly education you have to get lucky, whereas JC comes with a better chance of success. Think about this, a kid in medical school now has a far more certain future compared with that future fish farm towkay somewhere.
It depends on how you see future. Of course people will look down on that fish farm boss, but if he says he earns 50 k a month, then people will be like eh.... wat the..... *awe Ultimately its all about the money right ?
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Originally posted by TTFU:
It depends on how you see future. Of course people will look down on that fish farm boss, but if he says he earns 50 k a month, then people will be like eh.... wat the..... *awe Ultimately its all about the money right ?
no, no, youre not getting my point. let me put it simply. If I ask you now, what are the odds that you'll be earning 50K a month in 20 years time, you probably wont be sure right? But ask that to someone who's training to be a brain surgeon in medical school, and he'll probably be quite sure.
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Erm chill guys...
Currently, I feel that the quota for uni entry for poly students is a little low and should be raised.
However, that does not devalue the standard of an A level education. The issue here is not that poly students with a GPA of less than 3.5 are completely unable to get into local universities. Actually the cut of point for courses in NIE and certain engineering and science courses in NTU is around 3.1-3.2, which is achievable by an average poly student. It's that these poly students with average GPAs are trying to get into courses like business and chemical engineering, which require an A level grade of AAA/A( chemical engineering) or AAB/B(business). Of course, there will be no shortage of qualified A level applicants there and poly students have to prove themselves to be outstanding in order to get in. Which the A level students have already done by getting outstanding A level results that would actually qualify them to enter most UK universities.
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I don't think brain surgeon earns 50k per month. 5 digit yes, but not 50k so much - This is Singapore. The country that is recruiting Indians to work as doctors. In education, as long as you have the money, everything is possible. You can even get your MBBS with just o level cert in singapore. 2 cent worth of advice. If you want to study in medical, never NEVER go NUS.
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Originally posted by Moka:
I don't think brain surgeon earns 50k per month. 5 digit yes, but not 50k so much - This is Singapore. The country that is recruiting Indians to work as doctors. In education, as long as you have the money, everything is possible. You can even get your MBBS with just o level cert in singapore. 2 cent worth of advice. If you want to study in medical, never NEVER go NUS.
why lol ?
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chill
No matter which route you go, if you are willing to work hard, you will definitely succeed.
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Originally posted by TTFU:
why lol ?
I believe that JC people who wanna study medical should know =DI won't say anything, else I'm wrong. But there you go:
"Even if the doctor is Filipino or Malaysian or Indian, if trained in the UK/Australia/Ireland/US/Canada, they are considered traditional sources. There are many Singaporeans who choose to go to UK and Ireland, where their medical schools are way superior. In fact, less than 10 students in the local medical school will be able to make it to Cambridge"- ST discussion
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Originally posted by Agenda:
Wow, I really have to spoonfeed you don't I?
As for the rest of your statements, please read my previous replies before your embarass yourself again.
So apparently right now, I'm the poly grad suffering from inferior complexty yet looks down on everyone else. What does that make the both of you? Not very pretty isn't it?
haha.. seems like you have problems forming up logical and coherent points against me ar? Do i need somebody of your calibre to spoonfeed me
? I don't think so leh. I'm not into junk food.. With a brain like yours which contains rubbish... Seriously dunno what you can feed others with... (maybe shit lor. you got too much of it.. apparent in your post)Yeah. You are right on this. 'I'm the poly grad suffering from inferior complexty yet looks down on everyone else.' Unfortunately, you don't have the rights and necessary intellectual ability to look down on Jc kids. You should know why. Just look at all your rubbish replies and thoughts. Compare it to ppl like hoto and HyperionDCZ.. It's painfully obvious right? LOL. So, who can you look down on? That's pretty obvious. Look down on the other 85% of the losers from polytechnic la. Like people such as TTFU. You must be very happy to see his post asking abt private degree right? HAHA.
So you can use this failure in life to boost your own self esteem =D
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Originally posted by multipleviews:
haha.. seems like you have problems forming up logical and coherent points against me ar? Do i need somebody of your calibre to spoonfeed me? I don't think so leh. I'm not into junk food..
With a brain like yours which contains rubbish... Seriously dunno
what you can feed others with... (maybe shit lor. you got too much
of it.. apparent in your post)Yeah. You are right on this. 'I'm the poly grad suffering from inferior complexty yet looks down on everyone else.' Unfortunately, you don't have the rights and necessary intellectual ability to look down on Jc kids. You should know why. Just look at all your rubbish replies and thoughts. Compare it to ppl like hoto and HyperionDCZ.. It's painfully obvious right? LOL. So, who can you look down on? That's pretty obvious. Look down on the other 85% of the losers from polytechnic la. Like people such as TTFU. You must be very happy to see his post asking abt private degree right? HAHA.
So you can use this failure in life to boost your own self esteem =D
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Originally posted by TTFU:
So its about the money or the status ? I rather have the cash in my hands instead of the status. And bosses of fish farms and bubble tea shops is it really that bad lol ?
dun ask so much la. i hate to say this but just to let you know that a degree from a pte school is worthless and no point getting la. the 3 unis are churning out so many graduates evey year. they are facing problems getting job. why would employer hire someone with a degree from a pte school? Ppl from local uni will just be a farmer who works long hour with little pay. What abt ppl with a not so recognised degree like a pte school? A cow? Just there to help farmer with the ploughing of land? Lol. Actually this is what I observed for many with only a diploma. They are subordinates to some exploited and lowly paid local Uni graduates (a farmer). What does this says abt the poly graduates? A cow right? haha. Just a tool in the farming process... -
Originally posted by TTFU:
i understand y u cant even get a place in local uni le la.. u spent too much time on such stuffs ar.. haha...
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u study well then go uni
dun study well dunnid go uni
so simple logic only
the retard go and touch sensitive topic
stupid sia
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Originally posted by gigabyte14:
u study well then go uni
dun study well dunnid go uni
so simple logic only
the retard go and touch sensitive topic
stupid sia
As the TS of this thread, it is sad that a constructive discussion has turned into a ugly battle between Jc and Poly Students. haiz. This is not what I hope to see when I started the thread.To be objective, quoting gigabyte14, a particular idiot has gone and touch on the sensitive topic. This discussion should be about uni admission. But somebody had to post imflammatory remarks that caused so much scoldings in this discussion. The trigerring statement made by the particular idiot.
No matter how I look at it, the poly student is still the star here..
and about A level certs being worthless..
This statement started the quarrel. Haiz. Hope people like this would not come again and derail the course of discussion. The only aim of this people is to drive the thread off track... If individual TS can decides on the post that are allowed to be made in the thread, I would have removed all the posts made by this person...
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Originally posted by multipleviews:
i understand y u cant even get a place in local uni le la.. u spent too much time on such stuffs ar.. haha...
ya thats after when i graduated
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Originally posted by TTFU:
ya thats after when i graduated
LOL. You are lucky. After spending so much of ur time on studies u only managed a pathetic 3.27.If u had indulged in ur trolling while u were schooling cant imagine the grades tat u would be getting?? HAHA. Eat some pig brains to brush up on your brainpower okay??? -
Originally posted by multipleviews:
LOL. You are lucky. After spending so much of ur time on studies u only managed a pathetic 3.27.If u had indulged in ur trolling while u were schooling cant imagine the grades tat u would be getting?? HAHA. Eat some pig brains to brush up on your brainpower okay??? -
Originally posted by TTFU:
lol. maybe instead of wasting time here you can sign up as a private A level candidate. prey that u can get a place in the local uni tat ur peer agenda values so much.lol.
actually cant blame u all la.
students from elite jcs view local uni as dumping ground for their less capable peers and also for the students from non-elite jcs. ppl from non-elite (the middle ranking) jcs find it a breeze and a norm to enter local unis. while ppl from the lower ranking jcs will heave a sigh of relief as long as they can step into local uni.
but for poly students, they would behave as though as they have struck lottery if they were to make it into local uni. i am not talking about popular courses like medicine or dentistry, but maybe some courses meant for jc students with CCCC grades in a levels.. like some engineering courses or media design. lol.
Isn't it obvious which education system is better now?
You poly graduates kept talking abt ur technical and hands on work experience as an advantage to jc peeps. but anybody who have done management science during their undergraduates time (or at higher level) would have told u tat in any organisation.. the leader (jc kids) is the one with the necessary management skill... they are in charge of critical issues like manpower allocation (ensuring poly students are allocated to jobs that best match their specialties) and planning for the company's future. Who'll be the ppl doing the ground work? It's those with the technical skills.They will take instructions from the leaders and specialise in the area that the leaders assigned them. This is the primary reason why govt set up institutions like ITE (institute of TECHNICAL education) and polyTECHNIC. Observe tat majority of the secondary school leavers will head to these 2 institutions. The reason is clear. You need more ppl at the ground levels than at the management levels. The technical education provided at poly and ite is to gear the graduates for ground level work..
While for JC kids, they are commonly divided into 3 different levels. Top Jc students would most like be in the top management levels. like the ministers, perm secs and military chiefs we see. Middle ranking jc will be in the middle management levels like manager of a dept, supervisor etc. Of course, some from bottom jcs will be in the lowest management level or would join their poly/ite counterparts in doing the ground work.
It's a cruel fact in singapore tat everything is planned based on one's paper qualification. Of cours, not all is able to accept the fact. Some stubborn ass like Agenda would continue to insist on the merits of his diploma. LOL.
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While for JC kids, they are commonly divided into 3 different levels. Top Jc students would most like be in the top management levels. like the ministers, perm secs and military chiefs we see. Middle ranking jc will be in the middle management levels like manager of a dept, supervisor etc. Of course, some from bottom jcs will be in the lowest management level or would join their poly/ite counterparts in doing the ground work.
I guess I must be a different JC kid :x
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Originally posted by eagle:
I guess I must be a different JC kid :x
yup. there will always be anomalies. i m talking abt the general trends.. tat's all.. -
Are you trying to say that based on A level, you are able to different sector?
"While for JC kids, they are commonly divided into 3 different levels. Top Jc students would most like be in the top management levels. like the ministers, perm secs and military chiefs we see. Middle ranking jc will be in the middle management levels like manager of a dept, supervisor etc. Of course, some from bottom jcs will be in the lowest management level or would join their poly/ite counterparts in doing the ground work."
The world is NOT black and white, it's gray. "middle ranking jc will be supervisor" oh come on. With A level cert, no exp, try and get a supervisor role job. Or I give you benefit of the doubt, you get your uni cert and apply for supervisor role.
Qualification only allows you to secure a job and determine starting pay. It's important yes. But it can only get you so far.
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Originally posted by Moka:
Are you trying to say that based on A level, you are able to different sector?
"While for JC kids, they are commonly divided into 3 different levels. Top Jc students would most like be in the top management levels. like the ministers, perm secs and military chiefs we see. Middle ranking jc will be in the middle management levels like manager of a dept, supervisor etc. Of course, some from bottom jcs will be in the lowest management level or would join their poly/ite counterparts in doing the ground work."
The world is NOT black and white, it's gray. "middle ranking jc will be supervisor" oh come on. With A level cert, no exp, try and get a supervisor role job. Or I give you benefit of the doubt, you get your uni cert and apply for supervisor role.
Qualification only allows you to secure a job and determine starting pay. It's important yes. But it can only get you so far.
refer to my post tat was made at abt the same time as yours...